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04-03-2008 , 08:31 PM
villain is loose passive, so i was surprised by the PSB on river, which made me think he might be bluffing.
Any queen is ahead now, does this make up too much of his range?

Party Poker $25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $47.28
SB: $15.12
Hero (BB): $43.85
UTG: $27.48
MP: $25.00
CO: $9.64

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with T 7
UTG calls $0.25, 3 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.75) 7 Q T (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.75, UTG folds, SB calls $0.75

Turn: ($2.25) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.75, SB calls $1.75

River: ($5.75) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero??
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04-03-2008 , 09:51 PM
the only hand that makes sense to me here is a four :s
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04-03-2008 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by piebear
the only hand that makes sense to me here is a four :s
A Q doesn't make sense?
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04-04-2008 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by React1oN
A Q doesn't make sense?
I don't think AQ is betting like this. If the guy is that confident with AQ to make a PSB on the river, he's confident enough to raise the flop.
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04-04-2008 , 11:59 AM
Easy fold...
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04-04-2008 , 12:04 PM
His line really reaks. I can't really put him on a hand here but I think his range includes missed clubs, kj, and j9. A four seems like a really possible candidate though probably part of a flush draw that picked up runner runner. In short, I'm not sure, and I'm a station so I think I call here.
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04-04-2008 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LooseAggressive
His line really reaks. I can't really put him on a hand here but I think his range includes missed clubs, kj, and j9. A four seems like a really possible candidate though probably part of a flush draw that picked up runner runner. In short, I'm not sure, and I'm a station so I think I call here.
yah me too

there are a loooot of missed draws out there, and a lot of the time when people c/c c/c then pot it on the river I see them turn up with air. I could see myself flipping a coin and calling here
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04-04-2008 , 12:25 PM
Putting people on missed draws is my specialty so I call also. It's a strange line if he has a bare Q unless he could read your exact hand, more likely to be Xc4c. If you lose the hand then it's fairly useful info.
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04-04-2008 , 12:30 PM
Silly line on villain. I check my notes and if I find a reason to call I call.

He could have lotsa missed draws, A7 or AT here too that you beat.
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04-04-2008 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Spurious
Easy fold...
+1 Unless you have been firing two barrels a lot with air and villain thinks you are FOS.

Also, I like your flop bet size but I would have also made a PSB on the turn. Bottom two pair is a vulnerable hand and you have to make people play to draw against you.
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04-04-2008 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by piebear
the only hand that makes sense to me here is a four :s
what hand does he call the flop w/ that has a 4? pocket 4's? q4? He doesn't have a four here 99% of the time.

A set of 10's a 7's, and Q10 could play this kind of ******edly on this drawy board, but b/c you have a 7 and 10 yourself, those hand combos decrease in liklihood.

Moreover, his line wants you to believe he has a big hand, so why bet so much on the river if he wanted you to call?

Im going to say this line screams busted draw. I think it's so transparent, that SB is making a mistake by making it. The # of drawing hands, by sheer combos are great too. There are straight draws, flush draws, combo draws like a 910 type hand.

I call here 95% of the time.
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04-04-2008 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by alewis21
what hand does he call the flop w/ that has a 4? pocket 4's? q4? He doesn't have a four here 99% of the time.

A set of 10's a 7's, and Q10 could play this kind of ******edly on this drawy board, but b/c you have a 7 and 10 yourself, those hand combos decrease in liklihood.

Moreover, his line wants you to believe he has a big hand, so why bet so much on the river if he wanted you to call?

Im going to say this line screams busted draw. I think it's so transparent, that SB is making a mistake by making it. The # of drawing hands, by sheer combos are great too. There are straight draws, flush draws, combo draws like a 910 type hand.

I call here 95% of the time.
makes sense.with the lone 10 in our hand i think i would muck it.but with the 7 we beat all other 10´s.and like you mentioned this is a busted draw often enough to make this call profitable
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04-04-2008 , 02:22 PM
looks like a blockin bet from villain.
call, no value in raising.
expect to see qx type hands.
when i call i never expect to see a missed draw.
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04-04-2008 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sinderg
looks like a blockin bet from villain.
call, no value in raising.
expect to see qx type hands.
??? Blocking bets don't tend to be so large.
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04-04-2008 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sinderg
looks like a blockin bet from villain.
call, no value in raising.
expect to see qx type hands.
when i call i never expect to see a missed draw.
A blocking bet is probably only made a better hand than ours...like a Qx hand


I fold quickly.
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04-04-2008 , 02:31 PM
i read the hand completely wrong. forget all my advice.
fold river.
thought OP had q7
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04-04-2008 , 02:45 PM
If he had a Q pairing the board shouldn't boost his confidence if he had a bad kicker, now he's got a 10 kicker, woopadeedoo! Really weird if he has a Q. Poeple love to slow play. Watch out for the set=FH, not wanting to risk you checking the river.
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04-04-2008 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sinderg
i read the hand completely wrong. forget all my advice.
fold river.
thought OP had q7
lol me too^^.thooght we had top two pair.god damn i have afewbeer intus.hopefully i dont have to )/(=)($(?($!&" in mybed
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