A little background..... Villain hasn't played a hand in a while, probably about two orbits. He's running at 39/9/1.2 over 40 hands. In previous hands he's check folded to cbets almost instantly. My image is pretty solid and haven't been showing down anything but the winning hand. I tend to get myself it to trouble for firing turns when i should check for pot control.... Been trying to cut back on it lately.


Should I check behind on the turn for pot control? Or try to get more value out of the hands I'm ahead? What do you do if he c/r's the turn?

Give your thoughts....

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BTN: $8.80
SB: $31.40
BB: $25.00
Hero (UTG): $36.55
CO: $40.95

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with K Q
Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.95) 7 T K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.20, SB calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.35) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero ?????

1. Raise to a frigging dollar preflop!
2. Bet the turn. Usually 39/9 guys don't know how to do a proper checkraise anyway... if he does attempt it, he will often inadvertently give you the odds to draw to an A or a 9. So... bet the turn!

Why raise to a dollar? What exactly is that going to accomplish? Why build a bigger pot?


And you make a good 2nd point...

Raising to $1 + $0.25 per limper is standard.

i bet-fold the turn, still QJ and flush draws can call and random stuff like QT/9T u might get another call from.

and pre-flop raise size is standard

Bet turn, checkbeh any scare riv card. but get your value on the TURN. Otherwise would you rather check turn and river getting no value at all besides the 8bbs invested after betting the flop?

Bet/Calling the turn here is standard. Even though he has slowed down there is still value to be had from your hand and if you're behind you have outs to improve.

*Grunch*
Definite bet on turn (2/3 pot i think is good). There are a decent # of marginal hands you can get value from and alot of draws that you want to protect against / get value from. This guy is rarely going to c/r you off of the best hand here.

It think Pokey has done a great post about this somewhere, $1 raises acomplish more - steal more when you're raising lite - bloats pots when you've got the goods.
Gives people worse odds to call pre ... etc.

I think you should be the turn here 2/3 pot is good imo

I don't mind the pot sized raise as the standard with all normal raising hands away from the CO and btn. A raise to 1 is completely fine also.

As far as stealing lite goes -there's a good argument that if you're in the CO or the btn against weak players in the blinds who fold > 50% then you can put in a raise pf w/ about any 2 since they'll be folding pf so often and playing completely fit or fold to your flop c bets. In those cases, I think a smaller raise of about .7 or .75 accomplishes exactly the same thing as a potsized or $1 raise and it gives you better odds on your "bluff" which you'll be making so often against the weak players. If there are terrible weak tight players in the blinds and I'm open raising ATC on the button, I'd rather be raising to .7 or .75 than .85-1.

I pot flop and 2/3 pot the turn probably, you have top pair and a good draw. If he check-raises, I call a small raise and fold to a big one. You have to assume at that point that you're drawing to a winning hand but are behind.

I think almost any time there are two to a suit or a likely straight draw on the flop and your flop bet just gets called then you have to assume there is a reasonable chance your opponent is drawing and you have to bet and make him pay for the draw on the turn.

Maybe it is. But it's not a must. And btw there wasn't a limper...