Villain (533 hands): 16/13/3.6, EP open 17%, fold to 3bet in EP 20% (5), call 3bet in EP 40% (5), fold to 3bet overall 38%, 4bet 25% (8)

Do you think villain 3bets QQ/AK here?

MP3: $4.50 (18 bb)
CO: $27.81 (111.2 bb)
BTN: $36.23 (144.9 bb)
SB: $53.71 (214.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $12.65 (50.6 bb)
UTG+2: $10 (40 bb)
MP1: $23.23 (92.9 bb)
MP2: $28.19 (112.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
UTG+1 raises to $0.75, 7 folds, Hero raises to $2.35, UTG+1 raises to $6

If you're not gonna stack off to a 4bet you shouldn't 3bet.
As played I'm probably jamming, definitely taking a note wrt 4bet sizing.

I did stack off, I just excluded it from the hand history. I was just wondering if this is a good spot to do it.

i'd fold to 4b
your positional stats have very limited hands for you to rely on it as an indicator

the general stats already give you a cue as how he plays

easy fold

Arguments can be made for flatting the 3bet (against this villain I'd prefer to 3bet), but folding to the 4bet would be bad given dead money and the fact that villain obviously 4bets wider than KK+. His stats also indicate a lack of positional awareness (EP open being greater than overall pfr), so I don't think that will factor into his thought process for what he should be stacking off against you (ie. he's not likely to tighten his stackoff range based on position).

seems fine

ez shove.

Pokerstove fun.

PFR raise is 13% overall, and continues with 60% of it. That's like 8% that he continues with. (.13 * .6 = .78). QQ is a 2:1 favorite vs. 8% (which I put as 66+,AJs+,KJs+,QJs,AQo+,KQo). Easy 3bet for value.

The key is, instead of thinking "I haz queenz! Three bet!", instead you think "I'm threebetting and folding to a raise", or "I'm threebetting and getting it in vs .a raise".

Once he does 4bet, we basically can't fold b/c he isn't deep enough.

np

what he said and his 4bet range most likely has jj and may be TT so shove him for value.

I stack off all day against SSers with QQ..

You can see them stack off with JJ+ AQ+ but for the sake of argument lets say V's 4bet/stack off range here is QQ+ AK


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.207% 38.35% 01.86% 19042240 923339.00 { QcQd }
Hand 1: 59.793% 57.93% 01.86% 28767898 923339.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }

so if you fold you lose $2.35

if you push V calls and you have 40.207% equity

pot is 25.30 and with your equity your EV is 4.01

4.01 > -2.35 so EZ ship


even IF V's range is KK+ AKs

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 27.182% 26.96% 00.22% 7386022 61040.00 { QcQd }
Hand 1: 72.818% 72.60% 00.22% 19888762 61040.00 { KK+, AKs }

EV is -0.62

-.62 > -2.35 and that's against a tight range.. ship

Can we ever think in terms of "we 3bet and call a 4bet shove but fold to a non-shove 4bet"?