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11-18-2008 , 09:57 AM

Schlager233

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Villain is in SB playing 14/9/3.7..about 200 hands...I was abusing this guy's blinds from the SB, Button, and stealing his attempt to steal from the CO. I was doing this for about a half hour. A few times he called but folded to a C-bet. Here I was thinking that he could be 3-betting with any hand (66-AA, AK,AQ,AJs, A10s) given our previous history. No way he is puttting me on QQ here. But in the end, I obviously overplayed this hand and the only thing I can take away from it is :beware the 3bet min raise... Our previous history influenced my decision here but a huge 5bet by him should have made things clear maybe...but even then...I have already put half my stack in the pot. Flat callling the 3-bet is way too weak IMO and folding would be absurd...

SB: $22.05
BB: $20.00
UTG: $25.45
UTG+1: $10.05
MP: $12.90
CO: $11.15
Hero (BTN): $25.35

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with Q

2 folds, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.25, SB raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $12, SB raises to $21, Hero calls $9

Last edited by Schlager233; 11-18-2008 at 10:07 AM.

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11-18-2008 , 10:21 AM

dagrim1

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I'd prolly flatcall the 3bet. If he has a hand you beat then you like to keep him in (if he has an A or K he only has a few outs) and this way you can also pick up a cbet and since you're in position you can control the pot as well...

MP is likely to fold anyway with the raise and reraise so shouldn't worry about him.

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11-18-2008 , 10:44 AM

brocksavage1

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12,587

Why is flat calling the 3bet way too weak? We have position with a strong hand... sounds good to me. 4 betting iso's his range to hands we're flipping with or crushed.

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11-18-2008 , 11:57 AM

Leprechaun

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Originally Posted by Schlager233

Villain is in SB playing 14/9/3.7..about 200 hands...I was abusing this guy's blinds from the SB, Button, and stealing his attempt to steal from the CO. I was doing this for about a half hour. A few times he called but folded to a C-bet. Here I was thinking that he could be 3-betting with any hand (66-AA, AK,AQ,AJs, A10s) given our previous history.
Are you sure this is an accurate analysis? You've a) only been playing with him a 1/2 hour (this means that you've seen at most 4 rounds), b) you assume he's noticed you, and you c) assume he's decided to take a stand against you here. Also, if he acts behind you how are restealing when he makes a play from the cutoff if he acts behind you?

No way he is puttting me on QQ here. Nope. He probably has you on a range of hands that include QQ though But in the end, I obviously overplayed this hand and the only thing I can take away from it is :beware the 3bet min raise... +1 Our previous history You've only mentioned 3-4 hands, and in all of them he he folded. The fallacy in your analysis relies on the fact that he thinks you will raise him with anything and will thus 3-bet with 100% of his range. influenced my decision here but a huge 5bet by him should have made things clear beyond any possible doubt in my mind...but even then...I have already put half my stack in the pot. So you're getting 3:1. Doesnt make it an autocall Flat callling the 3-bet is completely fine here especially given his 3-bet range and the fact that I have position on him IMO and folding would be a little weak here. In some situations (depending on position and opponent) it would, however, be standard... If you are getting 4:1. A 14/9/3.7 min raised and 5-bet you. He obviously, (i.e. 99.99% of the time) has KK or AA here.

Next time flat call.

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11-18-2008 , 01:44 PM

Schlager233

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 398

Opening from CO when he was B. What I meant at the beginning of my post-wasn't very clear. Thanks for good analysis. Makes good sense.

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11-18-2008 , 05:55 PM

manistyle

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 571

Yeah i like a Flatcall PF to.. You ain't betting much with a RR against his 3bet imo; Call and reevaluate Post

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11-18-2008 , 06:52 PM

Jakejackjake

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Flat call is they way to do it.

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11-18-2008 , 08:51 PM

Uppercut

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Your huge 4-bet PF is pretty much guaranteed to fold out every hand that you beat and get 5-bet by the two hands that have you crushed. Is this really what you want?

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