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25NL bluff-raise flop Cbet in positional 3bet pot, my bluff fails. Line check please.. 25NL bluff-raise flop Cbet in positional 3bet pot, my bluff fails. Line check please..

02-07-2012 , 05:29 PM
Villain has been super agg with his restealing, especially vs me. He also Cbets a LOT. I call preflop, hoping to extract a cbet from him, then I planned to bluff-raise him, plus I can hit a set sometimes. Unfortunately he gives action on this super-dry board. I adopted a 'one-and-done' approach and quit after that.

Villain stats:
450 hands
22/18
Resteal: 12%
Resteal vs hero: 43% !! (7 samples)
3bet vs hero: 23%!! (22 samples)
Flop Cbet: 86%
Fold flop cbet vs raise: 60% (5 samples)
Turn Cbet:56% (9 samples)

Some questions:
1) Is attemtping a bluff here +EV?
2) Would a preflop 4bet have been better. If so, why?
2) Would a float on the flop have been better than a raise? If so, why?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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UTG+1: $39.08 (156.3 bb)
UTG+2: $20 (80 bb)
MP1: $38.47 (153.9 bb)
MP2: $12.50 (50 bb)
MP3: $27.08 (108.3 bb)
CO: $8.90 (35.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $25 (100 bb)
SB: $28.50 (114 bb)
BB: $16.05 (64.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 7
6 folds, Hero raises to $0.62, SB raises to $2.25, BB folds, Hero calls $1.63

Flop: ($4.75) Q 5 8 (2 players)
SB bets $2.30, Hero raises to $6.10, SB calls $3.80

Turn: ($16.95) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($16.95) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero folds. Hero cries.
25NL bluff-raise flop Cbet in positional 3bet pot, my bluff fails. Line check please.. Quote
02-07-2012 , 08:16 PM
what are you trying to get him to fold on the flop?
25NL bluff-raise flop Cbet in positional 3bet pot, my bluff fails. Line check please.. Quote
02-07-2012 , 08:32 PM
A high, K high, JJ-99.. I know I beat A high and K high, but I'm worried that if I flat I'll just get barrelled off my hand. Plus I dont want to give him a free card if he does have AK, AJ etc. I know my 77 have showdown value, but in this sort of spot I'm NEVER being allowed to get to showdown. Villain is either betting the turn, or checking the turn then betting big on the river. I'd say it goes check-check about 10% of the time. So I dont think I can showdown value my hand.
25NL bluff-raise flop Cbet in positional 3bet pot, my bluff fails. Line check please.. Quote
02-07-2012 , 08:37 PM
nobody really raises a queen or a set here so i wouldnt expect him to fold TT or JJ
25NL bluff-raise flop Cbet in positional 3bet pot, my bluff fails. Line check please.. Quote
02-07-2012 , 08:46 PM
Its a dry board and you got position...without history that villain is sticky in those spots with kinda marginal hands I dont see the point in raising a set...so I cant really raise other hands especially on a dry board like this...you just rep nothing....and its a little funny that you are even aware that its a super dry board....you just dont wanna be aggressive for the sake of being aggressive (mentioned that in another thread too)...the "art" is to apply the it to the right spots....
25NL bluff-raise flop Cbet in positional 3bet pot, my bluff fails. Line check please.. Quote
02-07-2012 , 09:19 PM
wouldn't fault you for 4b'ing pre, especially if you think he's 3b'ing tons of crap that actually has decent equity vs 77

agreed with not raising the flop
25NL bluff-raise flop Cbet in positional 3bet pot, my bluff fails. Line check please.. Quote
02-07-2012 , 10:41 PM
leave the table. This guy has position on you most of the time, and he's giving you fits the few times you have it on him.
25NL bluff-raise flop Cbet in positional 3bet pot, my bluff fails. Line check please.. Quote
02-07-2012 , 10:47 PM
you can't really say that without knowing nothing else about the table
25NL bluff-raise flop Cbet in positional 3bet pot, my bluff fails. Line check please.. Quote

      
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