Villain is 55/5 massively losing microNL loser over a large sample.

As an example of how he plays, check out this hand:

SB ($2.08)
BB ($30.70)
Hero (UTG) ($37.40)
MP ($36.57)
CO ($25.25)
Button ($32.32)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, K
Hero bets $0.85, 3 folds, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.95) 7, Q, J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.22, SB calls $1.22

Turn: ($4.39) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.25, 1 fold

(Hint: He folded for his last .01 on the turn.)


This hand came up a bit later.... do you like this line vs. this type of player? His range up to river is pretty much ATC.

BB ($22.05)
UTG ($29.85)
Hero (MP) ($39.16)
CO ($39.16)
Button ($25)
SB ($28.59)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, K
1 fold, Hero bets $0.85, 3 folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) 10, 2, 4 (2 players)
BB bets $0.25, Hero raises to $2.55, BB calls $2.30

Turn: ($6.90) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25

River: ($7.40) A (2 players)
BB bets $7.40, Hero calls $7.40

Total pot: $22.20 | Rake: $1.11

I probably just call the flop vs someone who won't fold to a raise

I normally treat these minbets more like a check then a bet. Raising the flop here is perfectly fine. (Maybe raise to $2?)

He's a station. I'm building a pot so that I get paid when I hit. 2 overs and the NFD is pretty good spot to pop this flop, IMO.

I like the way you played it but the river can be discussed some. You say he's a station yet he's suddenly donking out full pot. Does he do this more often? What i'm basically wondering is if this is the kind of lunatic who finally hits his ace on the river with his A9 and deciding to valuebet it, or if he's the kind of guy who only leads out when he has 2pair+.

Which of these it is would determine whether a raise is profitable.

Well, I think up until the river, his range is any two cards. Seriously, he's that bad.

When he pots the river... I've got no idea what I am up against. I doubt raising the river vs. this guy is a good idea, given the way the hand played out, and really, I think calling here is likely pretty thin.

But I don't know, which is why I am asking. LOL

I'm not a fan of semi-bluffing a calling station, especially when he's donking into you, imo he's caught a piece of it, I like the turn call, the river seems closer to a fold then a call as he thinks your going to pay him off.

Shove river.

When I see people take the line of min betting, then potting it, it usually seems to mean one of two things.

1. He just hit his hand and he thinks you will pay him off because his play doesn't make any sense.
2. He thinks because you just called his min bet that you are showing weakness and will fold to a pot sized bet.

If he thinks you missed your flush draw or he has an ace I think he might do this so I think I would call here but I think you would probably be fine doing anything.

Grunching; If he's actually a 'donk-Station' then calling this river is pretty thin, and I certainly wouldn't raise. Raising flop is fine/good vs a min-bet from anyone, we have plenty of equity here. Most actual stations aren't going to bet a medium strength hand full pot on the river, imo.......4 or air/missed draw for me, more often a 4.

There is no way im folding against the player you describe. This could easily be a worse A that "got there". I like raising the flop strictly for value. Your a fav over any pair and ahead of a lot of stupid bluffs that donks like to do. I might even shove cause he will still call you with worse As but overall calling is probably best since you could be up against a 4 or 2 pair

And get called by what ? Look at the first hand he knows where the fold button is and can use it so you only value town yourself here by shoving.

Against this guy I will call the river all day. Raise the flop here for value.

you missed some value there... you should have checked and let him bluff the river.

Would maybe raising the min bet on the turn have been better? If villain min-bets/calls raise on turn, how likely are we to want to call the pot sized bet on the river?
-Chris

Yeah it's really thin for sure.

Nice hand reading btw. I'll send you $5 on FT if you can name his other card.

as everyone said, don't do anything that has the word "bluff" in it to this guy!

and when a donking station pots it on the river, muck your AK and run for the hills.

nice find btw

Did i miss something or your title says "massive calling station" and you are semibluffing him?

Just call dude.

Never bluff calling stations.
And TPTK is almost never good if they suddenly strike.

This is how monkeys play their draws or very marginal 1 pair hands alot. Raising the flop is fine, its not even a bluff. I would also raise/fold (raise to 4) the turn btw. I see random 2 cards and weaker draws way too often in this spot and they will often fold, or call when you are still ahead/in good shape (or raise when you are in bad shape). It also sort of sets stacks up for a rivershove when you hit your flush. Now fold river, this sizing is def not a missed draw enough of the time.

Did he have A4?

Raising turn is interesting, I hadn't really considered it. I'm going to think about it for a while... you might be right.

J4, fwiw.

why is everyone treating the flop raise strictly as a bluff? we are favourite vs most one pair hands (which never fold) and raising bloats the pot which we will play in position, putting villain in a terrible reverse implied odds spot with almost any possible hand he can have.

Board: Tc 2c 4h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.737% 53.74% 00.00% 1596 0.00 { AcKc }
Hand 1: 46.263% 46.26% 00.00% 1374 0.00 { JTs }

even if he has AT

Board: Tc 2c 4h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.902% 46.45% 00.45% 4139 40.00 { AcKc }
Hand 1: 53.098% 52.65% 00.45% 4691 40.00 { ATs, ATo }

shove flop not close

shove 21 into a 2 dollar pot?

Some idiots cannot fold overcards to any kind of bet. It is quite feasible that he did his stupid min-min-pot thing with AJ/AQ. Was it the previous hand which you saw him fold for 0.01 that made you second guess when he took the line (loosest sense) which he did here?

I don't think calling the River can be that bad. If we're calling, though, I don't see why we're not shoving? He probably won't even fold second pair if he's bad. I expect a lot of 'OMG are you serious?' in response, but I've seen it done often lately. We can get called by worse.

Yeah mostly it's about him being a minbetting station/donkey, and then waking up on the river with a PSB. And that's why we aren't shoving the river.