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09-13-2013 , 04:28 PM
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fish is 89/11 over 29 hands
villain/ 4better is 14/14/8 over 38 hands playing 6 tables no reads but he has iso the fish when he limped a few times

is this just super standard to get it in?



[converted_hand][hand_history] $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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Hero (SB): $25.80 (103.2 bb)
BB: $24.75 (99 bb)
MP: $24.88 (99.5 bb)
CO: $25 (100 bb)
BTN: $26.50 (106 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K A
MP calls $0.25, CO raises to $1, BTN folds, Hero raises to $3.10, BB folds, MP calls $2.85, CO raises to $7, Hero raises to $25.80 and is all-in, MP calls $21.78, CO calls $18 and is all-in

Flop: ($75.13) J 2 2 (3 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($75.13) 6 (3 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($75.13) 3 (3 players, 2 are all-in)
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09-13-2013 , 04:43 PM
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Meh, I prefer to flat pre to keep the fish in, unless you expect him to limp/coldcall, which I want to see him do first.

As played you got no FE but 3way and with the reg having a bit of a wider range because of the fish, I guess it's fine.
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09-13-2013 , 04:51 PM
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Flat as in not 3betting?
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09-13-2013 , 04:52 PM
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09-13-2013 , 04:54 PM
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What's your 3b range here?
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09-13-2013 , 05:14 PM
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I'd fold to 4 bet, he isn't bluffing and you have no FE. Probably be calling KK, AA here sometimes to keep fish in unless I have a note that fish cold calls 3 bets.

If he had worse than AK he would flat 3 bet instead with fish in pot.
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09-13-2013 , 05:15 PM
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What's your 3b range here?
Couple of bluffs, but hands that are not doing to shabby when fish cc's (KTo etc). QQ+, flat some 3bet some.

While it's a totally standard 3bet gii HU against a reg, in this spot you'll not be making a lot of money with it compared to flatting and keep both his range wider and the fish in the pot.

Obv the fish cc'd, so it's all good.

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I'd fold to 4 bet, he isn't bluffing and you have no FE. Probably be calling KK, AA here sometimes to keep fish in unless I have a note that fish cold calls 3 bets.

If he had worse than AK he would flat 3 bet instead with fish in pot.
you realize there is a lot of money in the pot right?
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09-13-2013 , 05:22 PM
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I guess he's never 4b bluffing here with the fish behind. That already called the 3b but I think there's a chance he opens his value range up a little so maybe JJ+ and possibly AQ+ although I think he likely flats AQ but against JJ+ an AK we are in pretty good shape
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09-13-2013 , 05:36 PM
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definitely 100% a 4bet and call here. if the isolator were in an earlier position, then flatting to keep he fish in would be fine, but we are sb vs co and 3betting is just better, even though calling is also +ev.

maybe not as standard at 25nl to stack off here? but at higher levels vs regs it is 100% so you better get used to it
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09-13-2013 , 05:41 PM
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The fish showed up with A4o so that must make it hugely +ev
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09-13-2013 , 06:09 PM
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90 vpip is quite likely to limp/call a 3bet

vs some random fish, I'd def call unless I had a dynamic going on with CO

As played shoving is definitely fine
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09-13-2013 , 11:07 PM
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09-14-2013 , 06:27 AM
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+1 to shoving being fine
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