No reads on villain as this is my first orbit at the table. I put him on a range of 88+, AK, AQ, KQs and maybe some suited connectors. I didn't really have a plan when I called the flop bet (bad, I know). The question I really have here is should I have played this differently preflop? I don't know how lightly he's raising out of the blinds. Should I 4bet this to get a bit more information on his hand preflop? I feel like I made a mistake earlier in the hand and it's being compounded on later streets.


Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BB: $25.00
UTG: $29.94
MP: $25.88
CO: $38.84
Hero (BTN): $25.35
SB: $26.15

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with 9 9
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, BB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.10) 3 3 2 (2 players)
BB bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50

Turn: ($15.10) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $7

Call down if you call the flop bet. Don't 4bet for information, either 4bet/call or 4bet-shove over his 3bet. But I think just flatting his 3bet is fine because 99 has a ton of SDV. I'd just click call for the next two streets with my hands over my eyes, although I'm not sure if this is too stationy either.

Unless you know hes a fish or loose, 99 is doing really bad against his 3betting range. You are in position but if it were me Id just fold until I know more about him. I used to call this as standard but now see it as a clear fold if you either dont know your opponents tendancies, or he's 3betting 5% or less. If you subscribe to cardrunners check out Nickachus video on mamipulating ranges in 3bet pots. Really helpfull.

yeah fold pre without reads 25nl is full of nits be one

fold pre ???...if u gonna be folding on 7 high board then quit poker. smh no guts no glory

Without reads and initiative, MPPs usually make second best hands. You really don't have the implied odds to hit a set, so just fold towards the 3bet.

As played flop is fine.
Turn is a call because of betsizing (1/2 pot). If his betsize was bigger (usually dry flops / turns mandate 3/4th - full PSB) I'd fold because my RIO are just horrible.

fold pre, fold flop unless you plan to call down. not a great spot, let's find a different one next time

If you don't feel comfortable continuing the hand with 99 on this flop then you should fold pre. My play is to fold pre-flop because you have no reads at all.

if you call his 3b you have to call his cb on this flop, fold turn though he is likely not going to be barrelling air against an unknown and his value range has 99 crushed

Your reasoning is flawed.

What's your plan?

thats a pretty wide 3betting range u have given an unknown imo

i dont hate ur float BUT fold turn ainec

Am i the only one who is shoving this turn?

Fold to 3b pre flop if you're not comfortable playing 99 post flop. You don't have the odds to set mine.

yup, shoving plays perfect for him, the only hand that fold is ak which at nl25 wont bet the turn, every single other hand that crushes you snap calls and goes lololol at u stacking of with 99 vrs an unknown,
or are u thinking hes betting too small for value??

[QUOTE=Mark89er;22679735]yup, shoving plays perfect for him, the only hand that fold is ak which at nl25 wont bet the turn, every single other hand that crushes you snap calls and goes lololol at u stacking of with 99 vrs an unknown,
or are u thinking hes betting too small for value??[/QUOTE]

idk i just think the way villain is betting looks more like a f/draw, I could be completely wrong but I also think we fold out TT vs JJ too.
Iquite often see BB 3betting btn raises when people first sit down and it seems like a decent spot for villain to barrel?

+1. This is my attempt to bluffcatch his cbets and then limit the damage against overpairs.

I mean, readless pre I think I would just fold if you're not sure what to do here.

first hand at the table vs. an unknown this is an easy fold pre-flop.

fold pre

I'm shoving the turn a lot of times. His turn bet is so small, villan is saying that he is afraid of your call and with that size bet he shows a lot of weakness. Shove turn

Probably fold pre for the reasons given by others. And as played I would probably fold flop or turn. But I'd feel bad because I really want to shove the turn as I don't think a value hand like AA would bet so small, with the 2 flushdraws on the board.

The problem is no stats/reads = no way to figure out the most +EV play. Therefore either option is probably fine in the long run for this readless spot

fold pre

gotta fold that turn -- he's c-betting the flop with his entire range but a second barrel narrows his range significantly

Most villains at nl25 don't have the nuts to double barrel bluff in 3bet pots and his value range has you crushed

snp fold pre. now fold turn

I think this is a clear call most of the time pre.

I think on his turn bet you can start polarizing his range towards more 10's J's Q's , higher pocket pairs, in a 3bet pot. Although people like to fire 2 barrels all the way down with AK high.

Yeah pre you're getting 13 to 1 on his stack plus the pot.
This is good enough to set mine in position with right?
Plus 99 has some showdown value.
The problem I'm not sure about with the set mining is having to call the C bets on flops like this takes away your mining odds.
Fold turn and don't 4 bet pre vs unknown.

no