cutoff = 22-15 over 215 hands
button = 18-3 in 75 hands

i expect the Co to call so i make the call...

I flop a straight but not the nuts.. do we call, raise or sometimes fold ?
Maybe it's better to lead out here?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
Hero ($33.27)
BB ($26.70)
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($26.88)
CO ($50.20)
BTN ($18.25)

Dealt to Hero 8 7

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.75, BTN raises to $1.25, Hero calls $1.15, fold, CO calls $0.50

FLOP ($4) 9 T J

Hero checks, CO bets $2.25, BTN raises to $4.50, Hero ???

snap fold pre ainec

nt much more std of a fold pre for many reasons.

If you insist on calling 3bets cold with speculative hands in worst position can't fold when you flop miracle flop...

Sure someone could have KQ but that's just tough luck. You called pf, now better hope they have 2 pairs, fd's or sets which also fit. Or QJ type of hands.

Donkbetting doesn't mean much and while btn's raise on that flop is scary he does have other valuehands than KQ(Q8 is VERY unlikely obviously).

This. I use to pull stunts like this until one day i Insisted on playing T9ss oop against a hard pf battle. I flopped lower straight and was faced with a similar question.

At that time a friend of mine told me this and yeah, call and I think I lost to higher straight or something like that. The problem wasn't the call flop, it was the call PF where you will be folding a lot and when you flopped miracles (like this!) you still are facing a semi-difficult decision.

But it resumes to this: if you call pf you are playing for a strong hand: straight or flush (wich isn't that high).

You flopped a straight. It's time to jam it. If you feel uncomfortably jamming this on the flop, then fold pf.

very clear thx.. reason i called was the smallish 3bet en CO that almost never 4bets.. guess fold pre here. As played i agree with jamming!

I'd bet my lunch money that button an overpair. I mean, how often does an 18/3 min 3 bet pre and min raise a flop donk?

Shove, he's not folding. The fact that button could have QQ/KK makes it less likely that CO has QK, for what it's worth. You absolutely cannot fold here.

You can (and should) fold pre, though.

C/get the money in on the flop. Agree with others that pre is a clear fold.

fold pre, get it in now and sigh

The minraise from the button with such nitty and bad stats is prob AA/KK/QQ imo.
Not sure what CO is calling with, could be 99/TT though.

Get it in now and don't sigh, fistpump, it's a bad call pf but now that you've flopped a monster don't be afraid to ship it...

I'm not saying be afraid, just we are likley to have to doge a fair amoutn to win. Obv we are ahead a huge % of the time, hjust I cant see bare AA/KK getting it in, more like QQ/ AKdd sets AQdd etc etc, stuff with some pretty decent equity vs us.

arrr in

Why flat pre if a complete nobrainer like this is confusing you?

fold pre, as played you can't fold when you hit you hand, get it in