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10-30-2009 , 01:45 AM

Number1Hater

Confused About Butt Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 14,214

villan: 19/12 >223.

how do you like my line here? is this spewing?

Full Tilt Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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CO: $10.46
BTN: $35.03
SB: $26.91
Hero (BB): $26.97
UTG: $26.67

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with K

UTG raises to $0.85, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3, UTG calls $2.15

Flop: ($6.10) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $4.00, UTG calls $4

Turn: ($14.10) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets $10.00, UTG raises to $19.67, Hero calls $9.67

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10-30-2009 , 01:54 AM

gateswi

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 11,427

I don't ever 3-bet this pre, I don't think its ever really a value 3-bet but then again flatting KQs oop will really limit our options postflop (like fit-or-fold a lot of the time) so maybe I need to expand my play.

As played hand looks really standard, flop c-bet is good with overs+FD and some FE against AQ or flatted AK. With nearly 1/3 your stack in and a gutshot redraw on the turn I think you are always bet/calling.

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10-30-2009 , 01:59 AM

EraEric

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 402

Flop is fine

I would check call turn as long as 3/4 pot or below, c/f otherwise
push river on a made draw, check fold if i miss completely... however im not sure what i would do if the river came a K or Q

I cant decide whether check calling or bet folding would be better for a K or Q on the river. Obviously i wouldn't check call an all in on the river with it tho...

Last edited by EraEric; 10-30-2009 at 02:15 AM.

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10-30-2009 , 02:07 AM

It'sOn

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 634

Flat pre. Why would you 3b light OOP against a 19/12 raising UTG? 3b this just seems like burning money.

Nonetheless, you're pretty much going to commit with this hand on both this flop and turn. Post-flop, this is all really standard.

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10-30-2009 , 02:16 AM

Number1Hater

Confused About Butt Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 14,214

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Originally Posted by It'sOn

wouldn't most of you think a flat here is a leak? 3b or fold right?

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10-30-2009 , 02:20 AM

ballstreet

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 22

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Originally Posted by It'sOn

Flat pre.

What do you plan on doing on the flop after flatting OOP if you don't at least have a draw? Just Check/Fold? That seems like burning money...

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10-30-2009 , 02:47 AM

akai333

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 332

I dont really mind the 3bet but I could've folded here If villain has not been fooling around too much...
Cbetting the flop is fine too ...yet it does tell u that u dont have too much fold equity..with your Draw being this good ( Gutty+F.D. ). I would c/c turn to try and bust him wen I hit my draw...
Leading turn is bad because your flop cbet being called by a tightish guy is a strong enough indication of lack of fold equity. Nor is the turn card a scare card which generates any F.E.
And if he does have a hand he likes this would be a good time to draw against it and bust him seems more profitable ( provided he bets like 9~10 ).

akai

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10-30-2009 , 03:41 AM

TheFurrr

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 156

Actually don't mind a fold here preflop seeing that villain is 19/12 and opening UTG which means he is really at the top of his opening range here. If you are 3betting this which I believe is also ok you have to know that this is a 3bet bluff and play the hand accordingly. Since you 3bet oop technically as a bluff and decided to cbet you have to follow through with a 2nd barrel as villain could be floating etc. with any pp. Doubt your overs are live here especially after his turn shove however you have priced yourself in. Also stats which could be relevant would be villains fold to 3bet and fold to cbet etc as these could sway your decisions on the flop/turn.

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