BB is huge fish. all the money on the table is his. will auto pot any 2 cards on any flop.

mp seems like your standard 22 / 17 player. Playing a couple rush tables so not paying too much attention to him. This is not a rush table.


2 hands before i opened utg JJ and everyone called. i checked a Ten high / draw heavy flop, fish bet and mp raised and the other guy in the hand called so i mucked the winner.

comments on any street welcome. please no fold pre flop stuff


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

MP ($86.99)
Hero (Button) ($132.60)
SB ($25)
BB ($25)
UTG ($57.55)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4, K
BB calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.15, 1 fold, BB calls $1

Flop: ($4) 7, 4, 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $4, MP calls $4, Hero calls $4

Turn: ($16) 5 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $8, Hero calls $8, BB calls $8

River: ($40) K (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $9, MP raises to $73.74 (All-In)

I think I call because I think he feels a flush is good here, and WTF is up with the 9 dollar bet on the river...

It looks like MP has the nut flush. I call this river bet and hope he does not turn over 77 or KK.

WTF is up with everything he has been doing. He only had $10 left by the way and mucked for the remaining dollar.

Oh my bad, I thought you made it lol

haha im the villian... sry dude what a cooler

Fold pre? Lead flop? At least raise it? The board is so drawy.

This is a terrible hand to have oop.

The K on the river doesn't improve yor hand. You still beat naked 4 and lose to every set, am I right? I think its a fold.

even tho i know what i had i still really think you needed to fold. I mean i cant be bluffing since my hand has to beat that fish (uber fish btw And given your read of me you really cant think im going to value raise a flush this way. But in game speed to really dont think I could have folded either

don't understand why u play so passive on the flop?MP is actually CO in this hand and may think his flush is good here, you show no strenght at all... i would fold to this massive riverbet tough. 77, 55, 8d6d and KK are very possible i think... The HH is kind of confusing, BB checks first PF?? u on the BTN check first on every street???

something is wrong with the HH. Hero in on the button...

Calling OTB is iffy. Calling in the small blind it terribad.

fold pre ldo, snap river.

WTF fold pre. Why the hell are you flatting a TAG OOP with K4s?

Also, you have no right to being telling us not to give you "fold pre stuff". Don't call pre with crap and then we won't tell you to fold pre.

There are 9 hands out there that have you beat. MP has one of them. Don't risk your nice stack. Fold.

If you call the turn, htf are you not calling the river?

oh yeah, fold pre as well

i think the converter messed the hand up

are you in the SB?

i dont really like flatting K4s oop pre, even with the fish likely to come along

once you get this flop and the fish donks out large, i would definitely checkraise this flop and expect him to peel with all sorts of crap

Uh, I really can't see any merit to calling in this spot pre, I mean MP would have to be really bad postflop to justify this (+ you don't even have any reads), and trust me I'll try and find any excuse I can to call OTB.

I think you should be doing more betting/raising on the flop and less calling.

On river if BB had a deeper stack here this would be a super instant snap call imo, as not it's far more grunchy but I assume you've been playing a lot of marginal hands IP and maybe going to the showdown a lot with BB in which case MP prob views you as a complete spewtard who will stack with any flush which makes this a grunchy snap call imo . Obviously 77 is in his range, and KK is kinda in his range but I think he should be raising flop a lot with that hand (though wouldnt completely rule it out. Either way I think he should have more Axs in his range than sets here.

This is what you get when you play K4s 350bbs deep vs an unknown tag...

My thinking was that i wanted to play a big pot w/ mp, bb was 99.9% going to do something stupid on the turn, probably shove, and i could play off of that. If i raise the flop i think the fish goes away a lot of the time.


The problem is i had no idea what you thought of me, or what hands you think i would call. Should probably pay more attention, i didnt even notice how you got your chips. but the way i played my hand makes it seem so weak, i am not really sure what u put me on? i guess i could have 77 / flushes, i figured u would think not rasing the flop takes some 4's out of my range. I was just hoping you had 54. wishful thinking i guess.

agreed. i just didnt want to hear it 32 times

fold pre
call river

which hands beat you

I'd probably fold... I just can't see MP doing this with a flush, I mean does he really expect you to call his massive overbet with worse? Doubtful. This looks like a better full house, maybe 77.

Also, raise the flop to protect against draws.

3b or fold pre, hate hate hate flatting

I don't think he has KK here so the only hands we are losing to are 77 and 55, not sure whether he is continuing with 55 on the flop so prob just 77. I think the nut flush is definatly in his range on the river so I probably call.

Raise flop or turn though, preferably flop

yeah MP is playing the fish with the nut flush here to often for us to fold to 77 KK/55