im still getting used to posting these online hands and i haven't quite got a hang of my hud (pokertracker 3) so if someone could tell me where to pull the stats on my villain please let me know

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $25.40
BTN: $31.89
SB: $31.01
BB: $26.76
UTG: $13.60
UTG+1: $28.32
MP: $58.68
Hero (MP+1): $41.80
LP: $19.23

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, BTN raises to $1.50, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.35, 2 players) 5 6 T
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.75, Hero raises to $8.49, BTN raises to $30.39 and is all-in, Hero?

it seems like a pretty easy call but just about the only hand im beating is JJ... so im not too sure about it, anyway give me ur thoughts

i would 4bet it pf to about $4.5 and ship that flop, and write a note about the min 3bet donk

about the only hand im beating is JJ...

Spot on there - by c/r that flop you're basically hoping for a fold. After that action it's probably not a good idea to stack off. On occassion you might be folding the best hand (i.e he's a maniac trying to get all-in with A10s/J10) but with the level of the game these days I think he has you crushed

4 betting the flop seems kinda bad to me... just because the only has i can see someone calling my 4 bet with at this level has me crushed or at best a coin flip... or maybe JJ, and when the villain and me are sorta deep it seems logical to do a bit of pot control? I'm not to sure though.

sometimes they will call with pocket pairs, AA/KK will usually shove in which case you can fold. I think the hand will be easier to play if you raise to $4.5 cause then even JJ wouldn't have correct odds for the set. by just calling a min 3bet oop they could have anything from suited connectors to pairs and you give them odds to hit it. and when they do you'll lose more being oop

I think by 4betting you take control of the pot, define your hand a bit better, and make it impossible for them to set hunt profitably.

thanks for the advice everybody! ill open up my 4 betting range

you can set PT3 to display your HUD on the replayer screen, iirc it's a tickbox on the replayer somewhere? might be making that bit up tho sadly, been a while.

alternatively, if you enjoy wasting time, you can manually enter the villain's name in the box above the players list in the (i think?) 'general' tab of PT3? then his stats will be displayed in the right-hand section of the screen.

is that what you meant?

this sentence tilts me in 3 separate ways

well i was trying to pull up their stats but a lot of the numbers seem off to what im looking at in the session in the way that 3 betting % will be:

# of times 3 bet
# of hands played

rather in the session it is:

#of hands 3bet
#of opportunities to 3bet

so when i post the stats in the hand it makes it more difficult

and to be honest I'm not even sure what the general stats i should be posting are, just VP, PR, AGF and any other stats that are important to the particular hand?

Hard to say much without any info on villain - although based on his 3bet size I'd assume fish...although passive fish as opposed to aggro whale makes a lot of difference to our optimal line.

All I can say is that if we think we can C/R the flop for value and call a shove then we probably should have 4bet for value pre. If we exercise caution and just call pre then surely we should just C/C flop and see what happens OTT.

really? i'm having trouble visualising whether you're looking in the right places, could you post screenshots or something?

that's what i'd do, plus say if someone else wants other stats then feel free to ask?

probably another newbish question but how do i post pictures?

When we play a hand of poker it's essential to consider ranges. Whether we call pre, or 4bet we need consider how his range changes. Here he 3Bet very small; do you have any idea what this can mean? In my experience some players do it weakly, some strong, but that's just what I've seen. So to 4Bet we need to consider his 3betting range AND which of those hands will continue. If he's the type of player who is very aggro we can make a small 4bet to induce. Once we call the flop I'm not exactly sure why we decide to raise. We would prefer to call so the weak part of his range stays. This is a board that he will likely cbet a huge portion of his air. But if we raise the flop we risk giving those hands a scare. Obviously we don't really expect him to have 3bet any of the hands that make sets here. Essentially that means we lose to exclusively AA and KK so there shouldn't be much to fear. If the guy is capable of 3betting air and bluffing streets then we can just call him down. If he's not going to do that and just has really strong, depolarized ranges, then we fold so we don't take ourselves to valuetown.

1. take a screenshot of the things you want to show,
2. paste into paint or whatever image editing software you prefer, and save as a jpg or gif file,
3. host the picture somewhere, i use photobucket iirc,
4. copy the http address of the image you want to post to your clipboard,
5. on the reply to thread screen back on 2+2, press the icon that looks like a picture of a couple of mountains against a yellow sky,
6. paste the address of your picture into the resultant popup box,
7. ???
8. picture