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10-12-2008 , 10:32 PM

Pobedonstev

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for a little history this guy is running about 20/17 and he's a pretty solid tag. definitely capable of making moves but has been showing down solid hands.

he's multitabling but kept talking about how he likes playing deep

is my line standard or am I ever ahead?
Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $84.20
SB: $53.25
BB: $33.95
UTG: $25.00
MP: $25.00
CO: $53.55

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with A

2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, Hero raises to $3.25, 2 folds, BTN says "ive been squeezed", BTN calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $5, BTN calls $5

Turn: ($17.50) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $8, BTN raises to $24, Hero folds

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10-12-2008 , 10:43 PM

klink10k

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yeah pretty standard, bet more on the flop and turn.... he might show up with a marginal hand here, but its just not worth it to take a guess 200bbs deep.

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10-12-2008 , 10:46 PM

sw0mgt

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Looks pretty standard. You could bet more on the turn. Easy fold after his raise.

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10-12-2008 , 10:53 PM

VillainUnknown

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I'd squeeze bigger since you don't want to give odds to someone with a PP. The only thing he might have on the turn that you beat is KK.

The only problem with less than 1/2 potting the turn is that you can only really have JJ/TT/AsJx in this spot (that won't be hesitant to call a raise), since you aren't afraid of the river.

Anyone raising here is likely to be bleeding money if he shows up with 88 say, since I would never expect people to fold AA/KK in your spot. Therefore fold.

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10-13-2008 , 01:43 AM

Pobedonstev

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i just bluffed you all as the villian with 46cc

i just wanted to see if my play was +ev thanks guys <3

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10-13-2008 , 02:55 AM

Mookie88

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I like coming over the top BIG time here... I think a big part of the villain's range is 54-64

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10-13-2008 , 03:05 AM

rollllon

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Originally Posted by Pobedonstev

i just bluffed you all as the villian with 46cc

i just wanted to see if my play was +ev thanks guys <3

Nice bluff. Perfect bluffing spot.. though, if villian has seen you capable of bluffing in spots such as these before, I think a lot of times he would just call.

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10-13-2008 , 03:18 AM

theshadypeach

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It can be +EV move when you're this deep, versus a thinking opponent. But how many times is the flop going to be scary enough to actually bluff him off. If you get too frisky or dry flops/repping a set or wet flops/repping a combo draw. he's going to be pushing lighter.

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10-13-2008 , 05:15 AM

Pobedonstev

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Originally Posted by rollllon

Nice bluff. Perfect bluffing spot.. though, if villian has seen you capable of bluffing in spots such as these before, I think a lot of times he would just call.

we didn't really tangle in any big pots since he had position on me i pretty much avoided him until this hand

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10-13-2008 , 07:55 AM

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VillainUnknown

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Originally Posted by VillainUnknown

Anyone raising here is likely to be bleeding money if he shows up with 88 say, since I would never expect people to fold AA/KK in your spot. Therefore fold.

I still stand by this. If he didn't show you he had AA, then he probably didn't.

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10-13-2008 , 08:18 AM

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soma_

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I check/fold this turn. What of villain's range calls PF and on the flop that we beat?

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10-13-2008 , 08:43 AM

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joephe

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Originally Posted by soma_

I check/fold this turn. What of villain's range calls PF and on the flop that we beat?

64s obv

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10-13-2008 , 08:58 AM

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soma_

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Originally Posted by joephe

64s obv

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Originally Posted by Pobedonstev

for a little history this guy is running about 20/17 and he's a pretty solid tag. definitely capable of making moves but has been showing down solid hands.

Or am I bad at picking up sarcasm?

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10-13-2008 , 09:34 AM

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Melina Perez

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Originally Posted by Pobedonstev

i just bluffed you all as the villian with 46cc

i just wanted to see if my play was +ev thanks guys <3

Wait did you three bet OOP with 64s, or did you call the reraise with 64s? Hand history confuses me. Either way I really do not like it very much. Over the long term plays like this will lose you money. Glad it worked out for you this time.

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10-13-2008 , 10:40 AM

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Pobedonstev

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Originally Posted by Melina Perez

i called the 3bet with 64s IP and i dont see how that's such a bad move being so deep

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10-13-2008 , 11:08 AM

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joephe

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Originally Posted by soma_

Or am I bad at picking up sarcasm?

It's a joke, as villain did actually have 64s.

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10-13-2008 , 11:34 AM

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lilaznboi

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Given your stats this is the perfect bluff.

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10-13-2008 , 11:46 AM

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BustoRhymes

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Originally Posted by Pobedonstev

2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, Hero raises to $3.25, 2 folds, BTN says "ive been squeezed", BTN calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $5, BTN calls $5

Turn: ($17.50) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $8, BTN raises to $24, Hero folds

Just as a grunch, have to say you are one of the biggest bluffers at 25NL, this is an easy shove.

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10-13-2008 , 11:49 AM

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Pobedonstev

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Originally Posted by BustoRhymes

Just as a grunch, have to say you are one of the biggest bluffers at 25NL, this is an easy shove.

unless you know who I am, i would've liked to see your response before i said i was the villian here

i dont normally make outrageous bluffs but can't see him being able to call/shove much of his 3bet range here and the turn bet size was pretty inviting

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10-13-2008 , 04:50 PM

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Pobedonstev

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Originally Posted by BustoRhymes

Just as a grunch, have to say you are one of the biggest bluffers at 25NL, this is an easy shove.

does this mean we've played each other?

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10-13-2008 , 05:41 PM

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rollllon

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Originally Posted by BustoRhymes

Just as a grunch, have to say you are one of the biggest bluffers at 25NL, this is an easy shove.

If you thought villian was bluffing, why shove? Accomplishes nothing but fold him out. Just c/c and let him bluff again. Shoving doesn't accompliish anything unless you think he was semi bluffing with a flush draw. It just gives you bad implied odds where he'll only call if he's NOT bluffing..

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10-14-2008 , 12:50 PM

#22

soma_

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Originally Posted by joephe

It's a joke, as villain did actually have 64s.

Well then he 3rd-leveled you.

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10-14-2008 , 01:05 PM

#23

bsball8806

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I'd be more on the turn but it's a pretty easy fold once he raises.

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