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25 NL How to play this good flush draw? 25 NL How to play this good flush draw?

08-26-2010 , 11:44 PM
Flopped a good flush draw, how best to proceed? the shortstacker is an inconsequential fish, the other guys is a non aggressive nit, so when he bet in 3 way pot he has 100% the king. For the sake of not spewing I put him on AK as to know my A is covered, so only the flush can save me. Im pretty sure a call/call/fold line is very spewy here, how best to proceed?

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (SB): $32.03
BB: $25.00
UTG: $36.47
UTG+1: $9.45
UTG+2: $25.00
MP1: $20.26
MP2: $30.32
CO: $25.00
BTN: $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with T A
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $0.95, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.85, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.70

Flop: ($3.10) 9 K 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets $1.85, Hero ??
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08-26-2010 , 11:54 PM
raise to 5.50-6 imo, fold to shove, he is likely cbetting random crap.
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08-26-2010 , 11:56 PM
Fold to a shove?
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08-26-2010 , 11:56 PM
probably, do you want to call off your stack for a flush draw? the ace will likely not help you if he shoves here

edit: just read OP again, how can you so accuratly put him on AK? his whole opening range would cbet this board most likely.
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08-26-2010 , 11:57 PM
Why? If OP does what you say, he's going to get just about the right price to call a shove on flush outs alone.
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08-26-2010 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AnAnonymousCoward
Why? If OP does what you say, he's going to get just about the right price to call a shove on flush outs alone.
sorry, then call.
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08-27-2010 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by pikamon15
raise to 5.50-6 imo, fold to shove, he is likely cbetting random crap.
non aggressive, super nit, raised pre with a previous caller, bet in a 3 way pot, LOL no. This is a K 99.9% of the time with him.

Im pondering 2 options here, raise shove all in, to rep something that beats him, get him off his hand maybe, if he calls I have equity. Or call and fold to any turn unreasonable sized bet. Let me know, thank you!

Also, I PUT HIM on AK, not on a CBET, because he RARELY CBETs. I said A just to get the A outters out of my mind to more accurately make a correct decision. Also if he has a king, from that position only K in his range are KK,AK, MAYBE KQs and that is a humongous maybe as I never seen him play this hand SO FAR. So far looks like the Raise shove is the concensus, it should generate atleast enough fold equity to compensate.

Last edited by Uthanak; 08-27-2010 at 12:07 AM.
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08-27-2010 , 12:43 AM
why did u call preflop? if u put him on AK u like playing a dominated hand out of position?

fold pre.

Last edited by eilno2; 08-27-2010 at 01:08 AM. Reason: cant read hand properly
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08-27-2010 , 02:02 AM
blehhhhh stack sizes make this so meh because there's no size we can raise to that lets us shove over a 3b effectively.

i guess raise to like 6 ish and call a shove, and if flatted shove turn.
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08-27-2010 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by eilno2
why did u call preflop? if u put him on AK u like playing a dominated hand out of position?

fold pre.
I did not put him on AK pre. At flop I did. AK is just my view of his hand, he could have 22 here it still wouldn't matter, I think I need the flush to win this.

Is a call/call/ Shove/fold line okay if he bets small and I hit, or do not hit?
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08-27-2010 , 12:55 PM
fold pre. period.

if you disagree, pls dont ask how to proceed with NTFD after calling with ATs.
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08-27-2010 , 02:27 PM
pretty good spot to donk/3bet shove.

as played make it like 5.25 so you can shove for pot on any turn. obv get money in if villain 3bets the flop.
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08-27-2010 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bombonanza
fold pre. period.

if you disagree, pls dont ask how to proceed with NTFD after calling with ATs.
Fold pre, hmm aight. That is what I wanted to do, but believed flushmining in a 3 way pot might be profitable with a chance at TPTK.
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08-27-2010 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Uthanak
Fold pre, hmm aight. That is what I wanted to do, but believed flushmining in a 3 way pot might be profitable with a chance at TPTK.
Ya it's a 3 way pot but you said that one is a short stack and the other is a passive nit. So how much action are you going to get from worse hands here? You don't have any fold equity against the short stack and the nit probably won't stack off light. So how can you play this profitably out of position?

I would definitely lean towards folding pre flop. This hand plays much better in position.
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08-27-2010 , 09:53 PM
shove
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