Is this an easy shove?

UTG: $32.94
MP: $24.27
CO: $38.19
BTN: 24.19
SB: $31.97
Hero (BB): $28.63

Both villains were absolute fish, running something like 48/10 1.2 AF and 30/12 .8 AF.

UTG limps, CO limps, BTN limps, Hero in BB with J8checks

FLOP($1.10)
QT9
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.75, UTG folds, CO raises to $4.75, BTN calls $4.75, Hero???


I'm fairly certain BTN has diamonds and I'm sure he's calling a reraise with them given his cold call vs the CO's 3bet. I guess he could MAYBE have 2p or a set, but I doubt it given the action.

The perplexing thing in this spot is that I could effectively being drawing dead and the action is back to me. Best case scenario is that BTN has diamonds and CO has 2p/a set, which puts me at 37% Equity. However the worst case scenario is that he limped with KJ and I'm stone dead. That or he also has J8 and I'm chopping if BTN doesn't hit his diamonds. This is obviously assuming that BTN wasn't bad enough to call a 3bet with a J and/or CO didn't go crazy with QJ.

What should I do in this spot?

Easy shove. Given how frequently these two put in money, their ranges are sooo wide. Lots of two pairs and draws in their range. You're a 3 to1 favorite against a set and a 2 to 1 favorite against a flush and slight dog to overs+flush+gutshot. A large percentage of the time, you're getting your money in with the best hand. If one of them has j8, you're splitting the pot anyway, at least you put the possibility of them folding on the table.

You shouldn't play hands worrying if every draw is going to catch up. Make decisions the best decision at the time given the information at hand.

Check that.. still a favorite against AhKh for example

It is not an easy shove, but i think that in play i shove or call

not folding this one but is definitively a tough spot

Shove. Btn should never have KJ here.

CO can have 2 pairs

I'm never worried about the BTN having 2p, I'm sure diamonds or QJ. CO is the one I'm worried about having KJ or J8, which are very possibly given the action. Assuming CO ONLY has 2p, a set, j8, or kj and BTN diamonds with both players calling a shove, this might be a fold. Can someone stove the equity?

This is never a fold.

I'd be a bit concerned about CO having the nuts with this play. I'd be much much more concerned about how many cards kill our action when he has 99/QT or similar and we don't win a stack off him.

So shove.

Multiway, why are we checking the flop first to act? This is an extremely wet board and we shouldn't risk giving out free cards. I'm betting $1 the first go around and keep raising the flop until we get it in.

Here is the hand. Made a read based off CO's play to that point and was correct. Although LOL @ SB, WTF? Had to misread his hand as A7, right?

results doesnt care, easy shove vs fishes. yeah they can have KJ, but they can have Q2o too...

Ignorant comment. As fishy as Bovada may be, and it definitely is, noone buying in 100 BB deep would be +25 BB's over a 100 hand sample playing 50% of pots if they are 3betting that spot with Qx. Especially considering they didn't have one hand where they put in more than 30 BB's.

There's a reason the fish folded KJ to a 1/3 pot river bet. That alone is indicative of the fact he wasn't ready to GII in that spot without a premium made hand.

Yeah, the reason is that he is bad.

Dont mind for your post really, this is a public forum and you can find every kind of people here.

Keep folding the 2nd nuts on the flop. See how it works out for you. Wp this time.

Seems to be working out fine seeing as I've turned $20 into $910 in 20k hands

Good for you.

Don't know what the point of this thread is though. Just a brag that you made a nit fold and were right this time?

If I send you 20$ could you turn it into 500$ for me pls ?

Regards.

Gii