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20NL Zoom: KJ 3bet on btn run into some problems... 20NL Zoom: KJ 3bet on btn run into some problems...

02-25-2015 , 03:15 PM
CO was folding a lot to 3bets, my hand doesn't really flop well and we have blockers to his value range. My head is messed up with the way this played out...

I guess the Q is pretty bad for us because we have AK/AQ a lot so would be pretty bad for villain to be bluffing this river.

iPoker - €0.20 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 37.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
UTG: 102.5 BB (VPIP: 22.58, PFR: 16.13, 3Bet Preflop: 1.39, Hands: 192)
MP: 134.35 BB (VPIP: 31.53, PFR: 19.82, 3Bet Preflop: 7.55, Hands: 114)
CO: 188.75 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 20.41, 3Bet Preflop: 15.00, Hands: 50)
Hero (BTN): 103.7 BB
SB: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 28.33, PFR: 26.67, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 62)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J K

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, SB calls 9.5 BB, fold, CO calls 7 BB

Flop: (31 BB, 3 players) 5 J T
SB checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: (31 BB, 3 players) 2
SB bets 15.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 15.5 BB

River: (62 BB, 2 players) Q
SB bets 76 BB, Hero?

Last edited by jimmyjesus; 02-25-2015 at 03:23 PM.
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02-25-2015 , 05:55 PM
Fold river is wp

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02-25-2015 , 06:10 PM
KJo dosent flop well vs a BTN open range? 3bets not terrible though imo, I think cbet flop as played is best rather than give a free card to two villians, no? And yeah villians never bluffing river here his sizing makes it an easy fold too.
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02-25-2015 , 06:42 PM
3betting KJ vs a typical co range is perfectly fine - cbetting otf is rly bad imo, rather make delayed cbet and keep pot small. When we bet and get called we are too often behind.

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02-25-2015 , 06:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Avizura
3betting KJ vs a typical co range is perfectly fine - cbetting otf is rly bad imo, rather make delayed cbet and keep pot small. When we bet and get called we are too often behind.

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I agree. Going to be hard to get value from worse hands while still being able to showdown our hand given half the deck causes us problems. Plus flush draws are probably going to lead the turn when I check behind the flop, allowing me to call when there equity is halved instead of risking getting x/r on flop.
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02-25-2015 , 07:32 PM
So 3betting as a bluff right, and KJs I assume is usually a call in these positions?
And good points about the cbetting, how about AJ, Still checking back or value/protection cbetting now? and how would it change if we had a club?
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02-25-2015 , 07:43 PM
Fine. Fold river
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02-25-2015 , 08:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tynhgg
So 3betting as a bluff right, and KJs I assume is usually a call in these positions?
And good points about the cbetting, how about AJ, Still checking back or value/protection cbetting now? and how would it change if we had a club?
Yea KJs would be a call for me. I think cbetting AJ is fine (with and without club) but not KJ. I think this is pretty much where the line lies between cbetting and checking because BB can have hands like AJs in his range. Plus, if we have AJ then it is more likely one of villains can have KJ.

I'm curious which rivers people are calling that don't improve our hand?
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