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20NL -TPTK oop gets raised on flop 20NL -TPTK oop gets raised on flop

02-09-2010 , 09:05 PM
utg+1 plays 19/6/1.2% 3bet/2.1 AF, have not yet seen him out of line.
Whats my general line here?
Say I call, what to do on a heart/non heart A,Q/K/brick turn?

Hero ($22.41)
BB ($58.25)
UTG ($19.70)
UTG+1 ($20)
CO ($20)
BTN ($41.58)

Dealt to Hero Q A

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.70, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.60, BB calls $0.50

FLOP ($2.10) T Q 4

Hero bets $1.40, BB folds, UTG+1 raises to $4.10, Hero ???
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02-09-2010 , 09:18 PM
I wouldnt have donked into him on the flop, but as played call and re-evaluate turn, a heart would probably be a good card as he will prob slow down and you can get to showdown cheaply.
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02-09-2010 , 09:20 PM
Oh yeah didnt notice that you donked into him, i wouldn't do that either, that makes his range even stronger.

I just get away here, hes range is strong you will never be able to get it in here good, and calling oop is bad since you don't know if he actually bets his draws or he checks them behind... and as mentioned his range is very strong, and tptk cant beat it.
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02-09-2010 , 09:22 PM
yeah dont donk he will raise you very often and then you wont know what to do in the hand as you dont know how he reacts to donkbets.
if he has underpair you will get at least one cb out of him, there are nnot much hands in his range that are drawing so you dont need to donkprotect either.
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02-09-2010 , 09:23 PM
c/c the flop is way more standard...as played call and re-evaluate the turn.
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02-09-2010 , 09:27 PM
tbh this spot sucks because he can have lots of draws, better hands then ours and now were playing a silly guessing game. as played id fold here because you made a solid bet and he raised and at best were like 60%, without using stove id asses our equity around 22%

id just fold as played, but def dont lead this flop
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02-09-2010 , 09:33 PM
meh, wanted to see the actual equity. i included both KJ in here which he probably doesnt raise unless its KJhh

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

39,600 games 0.005 secs 7,920,000 games/sec

Board: Qh Th 4s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 37.852% 30.44% 07.41% 12055 2934.50 { AcQc }
Hand 1: 62.148% 54.74% 07.41% 21676 2934.50 { QQ+, TT, 44, AhKh, AQs, AhJh, KJs, AQo, KJo }


but with removal of KJ except KJhh

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

24,750 games 0.005 secs 4,950,000 games/sec

Board: Qh Th 4s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 23.933% 12.08% 11.86% 2989 2934.50 { AcQc }
Hand 1: 76.067% 64.21% 11.86% 15892 2934.50 { QQ+, TT, 44, AhKh, AQs, AhJh, KhJh, AQo }
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