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08-19-2009 , 08:25 AM

Blacktie

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Just sat at table and villian in BB is 20/11 with a 3bet flop of 22% over 927 hands. BTN is 20/12 with a cbet flop of 79%. Whats my line ater the nearly min 3bet?

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BB: $29.11
UTG: $31.97
MP: $32.48
CO: $20.30
BTN: $19.70
Hero (SB): $20.00

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is SB with 7

3 folds, BTN raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.60, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.10) 5

(3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets $1.05, Hero raises to $3.00, BB raises to $7.00, BTN folds, Hero?

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08-19-2009 , 08:27 AM

Bigheadarch1

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meh im getting it in, even against made flush uve got plenty of equity, and a number of a x hands he can be doing this with

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08-19-2009 , 08:27 AM

wishiewish

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I´d check raise this to at least 5 and shove over any raise.

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08-19-2009 , 08:33 AM

Blacktie

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Is 5 not way to much the cr by? You still want him to come along with his Kx hands or single hearts. Just need to charge him for it.

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08-19-2009 , 08:36 AM

wishiewish

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You want him to come along for a good price. And we will be oop vs button rest of the hand.

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08-19-2009 , 08:39 AM

Blacktie

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Yeah but I can never see anyone coming along for a x5 rise with a bare flush draw or a Kx type hand unless its AhK which is a tiny part of his range and he'd probably be jamming anyway.

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08-19-2009 , 08:40 AM

wishiewish

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There is 2.1 in pot. He bet 1.05. So there is 3.15 in pot, you should raise just a bit bigger than pot here and it is 5$.
You also don´t want to price the other guy in.

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08-19-2009 , 08:40 AM

foldanytwo

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Originally Posted by wishiewish

You want him to come along for a good price. And we will be oop vs button rest of the hand.

say you raise to ~5, villain flatcalls, turn is a Q

, HERO?

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08-19-2009 , 08:41 AM

wishiewish

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Hero checks. How is that a question?

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08-19-2009 , 08:42 AM

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wishiewish

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I just say he won´t fold anything he would call 4$ with for 5$.

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08-19-2009 , 08:43 AM

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foldanytwo

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c/f? c/r? c/c?

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08-19-2009 , 08:45 AM

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wishiewish

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Originally Posted by foldanytwo

c/f? c/r? c/c?

c/c if bets small. c/f if he bets big. why c/r?

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08-19-2009 , 08:47 AM

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Blacktie

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Well he's calling $3 not $4 and I think there is a big difference between $3 and $5 here psychologically at least. It's 1/7th the original starting stacks rather than 1/4. Thats a big difference to me. o and this is going abit off track here... How do we deal with the c/3bet?

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08-19-2009 , 08:49 AM

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wishiewish

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What kind of hands are you getting action from?
When you make it 5$, it is a 3.95$ raise which is just 3bbs more than potsize.
Check/raising less than pot on a monotone 3 way pot is bad.

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08-19-2009 , 08:51 AM

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Blacktie

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Kx hands and single hearts. Or Kxh.

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08-19-2009 , 08:55 AM

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wishiewish

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He will fold his Kx type of hand on brick turn when we bet again anyway. He is only calling flop with that kind of hand. We make 1 more $ by betting a better amount.
I doubt he is calling with Xh there. If he is calling for flush it will be Ah in a 3way pot. And he is not folding that to 1$ more. We are also not getting 3 streets of value vs Ah anyway. So we want to put as much money as we can @ flop and turn.

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08-19-2009 , 09:29 AM

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ecquadros

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i would craise to $5 too.

in a hearth turn i go with wishiewish
c/c if bets small. c/f if he bets big.

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08-19-2009 , 12:03 PM

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paddytokey

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am i the only one who makes it like 4?^^

anyway this is obviously a shove here,you cant just call and see a turn oop.

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08-19-2009 , 12:06 PM

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As played c/r to $5 is good, but I'd have donked this flop. After you c/r you aren't folding so jam over his 3-bet (and its not a min 3-bet I don't know where people get that). I just re-read the HH and this can definitely be 55 and rarely KK, and sometimes the bare NFD. Fist-pump jam it.

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