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04-11-2012 , 06:08 PM
Sb is a kinda aggro looking bad guy over a small sample running around 40/23 30 hands.
Btn was a standard reg.
Flop?

Microgaming - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: €16.55
BTN: €19.70
SB: €25.56
Hero (BB): €20.50
UTG: €22.15

SB posts SB €0.10, Hero posts BB €0.20

Pre Flop: (€0.30) Hero has 8 9

fold, fold, BTN raises to €0.60, SB calls €0.50, Hero raises to €2.50, fold, SB calls €1.90

Flop: (€5.60, 2 players) 7 6 J
SB checks, Hero bets €2.84, SB raises to €5.68, Hero...
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04-11-2012 , 06:24 PM
Shove-ity shove. His range is AT+/88-JJ and you have a large number of outs
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04-11-2012 , 06:27 PM
call
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04-11-2012 , 06:37 PM
Best odds your going to get all day, IP vs an aggro looking guy who could be bluffing - if so, expect him to ch/f the turn - very few people at the micros follow through OTT... Call
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04-11-2012 , 06:50 PM
I don't like squeezing with 89s simply because it is definitely +EV to call and so we can let other hands that we might be -EV to call with be in our bluff squeezing range.

As for the flop if he raised higher you would just get it in. But because of the minraise we can call.
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04-11-2012 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
I don't like squeezing with 89s simply because it is definitely +EV to call and so we can let other hands that we might be -EV to call with be in our bluff squeezing range.
what?

squeeze pre is great

now call
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04-11-2012 , 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by uke_master
I don't like squeezing with 89s simply because it is definitely +EV to call and so we can let other hands that we might be -EV to call with be in our bluff squeezing range.

As for the flop if he raised higher you would just get it in. But because of the minraise we can call.
What? Seriously call is v bad with this hand oop, its 3b or fold!!
I dont like pushing this so i call.
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04-11-2012 , 07:16 PM
calling is the worst option imo

i think its a pretty clear fold readless
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04-11-2012 , 07:20 PM
post flop cam?
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04-11-2012 , 10:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GOONERCAM
calling is the worst option imo

i think its a pretty clear fold readless
You talking pre or flop?
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04-12-2012 , 01:53 AM
Call, whats the turn?
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04-12-2012 , 02:22 AM
:|

Preflop is a flat. Squeeze here against reg btns and sb fish that actually like to fold flops.

Calling the flop raise is pretty dicey tbh. If villain can raise flush draws here then we probably only have on average 7 clean outs, and some RIO's on T or 5.

I don't think I would fold, simply because we are IP and the odds are so good, but I wouldn't hate it if you folded, especially if he can ever be raising air here since we are probably never bluffing when he checks and that cuts down severely on our implied odds.
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04-12-2012 , 03:02 AM
easy call on the flop.
what happend in turn?
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04-12-2012 , 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Alexander Young
:|

Preflop is a flat. Squeeze here against reg btns and sb fish that actually like to fold flops.

Calling the flop raise is pretty dicey tbh. If villain can raise flush draws here then we probably only have on average 7 clean outs, and some RIO's on T or 5.

I don't think I would fold, simply because we are IP and the odds are so good, but I wouldn't hate it if you folded, especially if he can ever be raising air here since we are probably never bluffing when he checks and that cuts down severely on our implied odds.
this. flops not a "clear fold", but it's not an "easy call" either. if you don't have a good sense of the Villain's range, calling could be -EV. But if the Villain's doing this with TP, I think you can profitably call here.
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04-12-2012 , 03:52 AM
I'm more interested about Hero action OTT.
So if Hero calls(now I see Hero isn't 100BB deep)...OTT Potsize ~16$ and Hero has ~12$ left.

Shove any turn?
I mean def shove any club,but what else?some scary cards.
I think If we call OTF we must have a 2 street plan regarding the stacks and the sizing.

What If a J,7,6 hits?or a drum.?
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