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200NL: Two really tricky spots with Ax 200NL: Two really tricky spots with Ax

01-04-2010 , 06:07 PM
Hand 1: Villain is a 23/18 but only over 58 hands so pretty much readless. Haven't really tangled with him to this point. Minraise is cause of shortstacker so don't focus on that. PTR has him as a losing player

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Hero (MP): $380.85
CO: $215.00
BTN: $303.80
SB: $31.00
BB: $776.95
UTG: $241.70

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is MP with A Q
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, CO calls $4, 3 folds

Flop: ($11.00) T T 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $7.15, CO calls $7.15

Turn: ($25.30) A (2 players)
Hero bets $17.50, CO calls $17.50

River: ($60.30) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $41.50, CO requests TIME, CO raises to $186.35 all in, Hero requests TIME

Hand 2: Villain in this hand is a 24/18 reg that wins at a really good clip. For relevant history, I 4-bet bluffed KQ after he 3-bet my UTG open from BU and he shoved on me. I think I c-bet one pot where he flatted my open and he folded. Later on, after this hand he would 5-bet shove TT against my KK when I 4-bet over his squeeze so he's pretty aggro. What's my play on the river here? I haven't played too much with him postflop so I don't have a very good read on his postflop tendencies. It seems to me that this is basically either an overbet jam or a c/fold??

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BTN: $212.40
SB: $200.00
BB: $437.90
Hero (UTG): $203.00
CO: $206.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG with T A
Hero raises to $7, CO calls $7, BTN calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($24.00) J 5 8 (3 players)
Hero bets $14.85, CO folds, BTN calls $14.85

Turn: ($53.70) A (2 players)
Hero bets $38.65, BTN calls $38.65

River: ($131.00) T (2 players) Hero?
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01-04-2010 , 06:23 PM
Damn I keep posting in the wrong forum by mistake. Please delete
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01-04-2010 , 06:24 PM
hand 1: i think is pretty easy fold on river.

hand 2: id c/f flop. as played id bet about $100 though i could see shoving being better.... i think i get to this river with way more value hands than bluffs though so u dont need to shove imo.
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01-04-2010 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jackwilcox
hand 1: i think is pretty easy fold on river.

hand 2: id c/f flop. as played id bet about $100 though i could see shoving being better.... i think i get to this river with way more value hands than bluffs though so u dont need to shove imo.
This seems pretty on point. Very straight forward fold on the first hand.

Second hand, well... I've started trying to fold AT UTG, though I'm not usually one to criticize preflop play but whatever.

Once you've raised, this looks like a pretty good flop to give up on, I don't really like the bet.

Once you've bet... does anyone else think about checking this flop? It's a somewhat drawy board, yes, but I guess I'm wondering what sorts of hand we're hoping to get two streets of value from by betting? Is a Jack going to call two streets unimproved? Does he really have a lesser Aces? Is pot control not even a thought here?

In terms of the river, with the two pair I'd just make a standardish valuebet and pray not to see AJ.
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01-05-2010 , 04:45 AM
Would AJ pop us on the turn here? If he's aggro he would pop the turn I think. And if he's aggro you figure he would raise AK/AQ preflop. Would he just call Ax suited pre-flop? 55-99?
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01-05-2010 , 05:09 AM
fwiw, i think the second hand is a chk/call.
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01-05-2010 , 05:20 AM
On hand two, your question is about a c-fold or overbet jam on river?
Why c-fold?
Your description of villain put him as an aggro player who don't hesitate raising, 3betting and so on. Would he be just flatting the turn, if he had you beat? I don't see how we can c-fold the river. c-call if cautious but i would indeed cinsider the overbet jam.
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