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200NL,  tough spot facing river overbet 200NL,  tough spot facing river overbet

02-14-2010 , 05:43 PM
Haven't played him too long but he seems decent. Is a winning player. He has lead rivers as bluffs and for kinda thin value. Has cbet and bet turn a few times and I folded turns. cbets alot.

Full Tilt, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
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BTN: $203
Hero (BB): $208

Pre-Flop: K T dealt to Hero (BB)
BTN raises to $6, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($12) 2 T 2 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($28) 7 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $24, Hero calls $24

River: ($76) 5 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $98
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02-14-2010 , 05:46 PM
if he can thin value bet here this is a snappppppppppppppp
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02-14-2010 , 05:50 PM
I am not sure if he can. I have never called 3 barrels. The only thin vbets he's done is when I checked back turn ip.
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02-14-2010 , 08:41 PM
difficult spot. maybe a call.
he seems the type of aggro player capable of 3 barrelling as a bluff, and an overbet shove is the only chance for him to get you to fold on a paired board. (after he missed a spade or J8,J9 draw).
he may also think your hand is not that strong, since you usually don't call double barrels on non-paired boards. and you can't have many 2 in your oop preflop range.

but a bluff would not be the best move on his side, with that blank 5 on the river, if you respect him a lot (and he respects you and doesn't see you as weak), i would probably prefer a fold.

if he's shoving river for value, he may also do it with a worse T (more combos than JJ+...) because he does it to polarize his range

difficult to say on paper. generally i prefer a call when it's close (and he's not going to hit and run...)
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02-14-2010 , 09:15 PM
Snap call $100 and fold to $98 I think
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02-14-2010 , 09:25 PM
Who the **** bluffs here, your range is really face up and probably doesn't expect you to fold much of it.

Almost nobody overbets thin enough to be valuecutting themselves here. I think I fold here.
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02-14-2010 , 10:10 PM
I folded once in this exact spot during a video like 2 years ago and guy had a crappy T. Turned out he was some good player but I didn't give him much credit. Ya I know |I didn't add much but it's a good story
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02-15-2010 , 12:01 AM
haha that's why I put the "almost". I mean look at the tens in our range, overbetting here with JT is bad without history.
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02-17-2010 , 04:24 PM
When you check-call the flop and then the turn you're screaming, "I have a ten!"

I probably fold as I don't think he would be bluffing often here and the overbet may be trying to look like he is trying to buy the pot to get your action.
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02-17-2010 , 05:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rbracco
Who the **** bluffs here, your range is really face up and probably doesn't expect you to fold much of it.

Almost nobody overbets thin enough to be valuecutting themselves here. I think I fold here.
+1
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02-17-2010 , 06:03 PM
Does this really change if we have A10/JJ(that we didn't 3b)? Since this is so rarely thin value, maybe not really? I guess if we have JJ he can value cut himself with A10 but in general. Noone prob fold JJ here though.

I called and kinda hate my call looking back.
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