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11-09-2007 , 12:37 AM
Villain is new to table but seems like a donkey.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (CO): $219.95
BTN: $200
SB: $173.20
BB: $215.20
UTG: $202.20
UTG+1: $371.75
UTG+2: $260.20
MP1: $205.10
MP2: $332.85

Pre-Flop: A 9 dealt to Hero (CO)
3 folds, MP1 calls $2, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $9, 3 folds, MP1 calls $7

Flop: ($21) 2 4 9 (2 Players)
MP1 bets $13, Hero calls $13

Turn: ($47) 3 (2 Players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

River: ($47) 3 (2 Players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $28

On turn I think a small pr is his most likely holding (prob 55-88 but MAYBE 22-44).

Given this read better to bet/fold then or check and call a reasonable rvr bet?

As played rvr bet seems obvious - but how much?
200nl: I LOVE AXs. Quote
11-09-2007 , 12:40 AM
bet the turn you miss so much value

And raise the flop

stop being a coward
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11-09-2007 , 12:42 AM
lolz

soo...i miss value by not betting the turn because:

- i am going to get value on the turn and rvr out of a worse hand?

and/or

- he may call a turn bet that he wouldn't call on rvr?
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11-09-2007 , 12:58 AM
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bet the turn you miss so much value

And raise the flop

stop being a coward
why raise flop here? villains range consist of mainly hands that we crush, hands that we crush, and hands that are crushing us. I think it was all played ok including your bet size. I think bet turn though.... The times he gets tricky nuff to cr you isnt enough to make up for when he rivers something (pot equity youre giving him for free)+your inevitable call on the river. giving him chance to bluff the river is a nice idea but on this board isnt likely..... Your idea of seting up a bet is ok but i think that the % of the time you get that 25$ bet isnt gonna make up for the value of a turn bet. but hey this is just a boner talking.

O btw I do think that this turn should be chked a certain % of the time against a competent player but not against this dude.
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11-09-2007 , 01:00 AM
i don't get raising the flop either fwiw imo ldo
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11-09-2007 , 01:28 AM
i play same
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11-09-2007 , 01:39 AM
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I LOVE AXs.
Me too. I think we play similarly.

Also I play this hand the same. River bet size is good too.

If there was a flush draw on the flop, you could bet more on the river to rep a busted flush.
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11-09-2007 , 04:44 AM
if you raise the flop with AKx (i don't know u but i raise it quite often) then u should be raising this flop with A9. As played bet turn and river if he called the turn bet.
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11-09-2007 , 05:22 AM
Good as played.
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11-09-2007 , 07:04 AM
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why raise flop here? villains range consist of mainly hands that we crush, hands that we crush, and hands that are crushing us.
I agree but, after being bet into on the flop, I don't like betting the turn for that reason. It's unlikely Villain is on a draw, so why give him a chance to c/r us out of the hand? It's likely we're either going to get a showdown for the price of a reasonable bet on the river (if Villain is beating us with a set or weird two pair) or we can bet for value if it's it checked to us again (a possible donkey will definitely be betting a strong hand on the river, although I suppose it's possible that a strong player might go for another c/r).

I think I would have played this hand almost exactly the same (now I've finally moved away from 'total nit' status and opened up my late position raising range), including the bet sizes.
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11-09-2007 , 07:18 AM
raising the flop is just fundamentally unsound.

I think you should bet the turn and the river hard and get called down as your default play, but timing and flow might suggest you put him on a missed pp or something in which case its an obvious check.

As played, i'd make it a pot sized bet. He calls any bet with any pair here, make him make the maximum mistake dude.
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11-09-2007 , 07:19 AM
basically when the turn comes you need to make an informed decision of whether you think 2 streets more of value are possible. If so, bet bet obv. If not, check bet.
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11-09-2007 , 01:24 PM
I agree that I should have bet more on rvr.
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