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03-26-2010 , 12:27 PM

Almito

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First hand of the match, so no read except villain has rather bad stats over a very small sample (25-35).
His actions made me think he slowplayed a J on the flop (or floated with something like A8) so I folded. What are your thoughts?

Poker Stars $20+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): t1500 M = 50
BB: t1500 M = 50

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with A

Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 6

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t80, BB calls t80

Turn: (t280) 8

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t150, BB raises to t300, Hero calls t150

River: (t880) 8

(2 players)
BB bets t460, Hero ???

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03-26-2010 , 12:43 PM

tman755

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 200

Looks like a J, I fold readless.

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03-26-2010 , 01:29 PM

Raziel26

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Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 911

Yeah readless its a fold I think, can't see him doing this with much/anything that you beat

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03-26-2010 , 01:35 PM

tom'NOT'dwan

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 300

I hate the fact he min raises and his bet size on the river. Looks like a good old milk and a meh spot. But fold has to be right.

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03-26-2010 , 02:22 PM

BarryLyndon

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Originally Posted by Almito

Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 6

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t80, BB calls t80

Turn: (t280) 8

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t150, BB raises to t300, Hero calls t150

River: (t880) 8

(2 players)
BB bets t460, Hero ???

What's up with betting less than 60% of the pot on the turn? 220 - either he calls you with a mid pp again or he doesn't. More crap like that + 6s in his range than Jx.

Also, I think this is a gross spot, but if you fold this, I think you just pat yourself on the back that you can fold AA and move on. His range stinks of Jx here by the river.

Betting 150, however, does allow some plays to set up an elaborate bluff...

Barry

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03-26-2010 , 02:59 PM

Almito

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 969

Thanks.
Barry, nice advice for the turn bet sizing. Do you fold if he min raises to 440?

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03-26-2010 , 03:10 PM

BarryLyndon

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Honestly, the % chance he's going to miniraise in a spot like this is really small, so that doesn't concern me or effect my bet sizing. As far as if he DOES minraise me, honestly, I think you're going to get the same response from everyone here - this is a gross spot and, personally, even if you folded to the minraise, I wouldn't mind too much. Your expectation of facing a very troubling bet on the river is too high.

You'll still have plenty of chips in play as it's super early. Later in the match, based on dynamic, this could of course be very, very different.

Barry

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03-26-2010 , 03:35 PM

JSpazz

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6,694

Do not fold to the turn minraise, you're only beat by Jx/FH. River is prob the worst card in the deck so we're folding but I'm calling or raising some rivers

edit: oh and btw your bet sizing is on the low end. Agreed, it's a really dry board, but I'd still make it at least 180

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03-26-2010 , 03:57 PM

bluemage55

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Bet the dry flop smaller, ~t60. We want villain to call light here.

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Originally Posted by BarryLyndon

His range stinks of Jx here by the river.

As played, this. Even if villain check/raised turn with like, A8, we're still behind now.

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03-26-2010 , 03:58 PM

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quesuerte

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Originally Posted by JSpazz

It doesn't matter if he is repping thin if that sizing from a fish is >80% what he is repping. We can actually call this particular turn cause it is 150 more to win 3000 so we have implied odds to hit an ace. Added to the >0% we are good and he shuts down river we can call. If we bet turn 250, which i would do for value, and get miniraised it is actually an EASY fold.

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