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2 Pair Multiway Raised Pot 2 Pair Multiway Raised Pot

09-12-2009 , 10:00 PM
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

Button ($30.41)
SB ($61.28)
Hero (BB) ($59.84)
UTG ($11.20)
MP ($26.10)
CO ($29.52)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, 2
UTG bets $0.75, 2 folds, Button calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($3) 10, 2, J (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, 1 fold, Button calls $2, SB raises to $8.75, Hero raises to $15.50, 1 fold, SB calls $6.75

Turn: ($36) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($36) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $21.50, Hero folds

Total pot: $36 | Rake: $1.80

Button is 18/10/9 over 100 hands
SB is 18/14/1.75 over 150 hands

PF- I call with trash getting 4.5 to 1 hoping to flop 2pair+ or I'm gone

Flop- I hit the flop I was looking for, the flop has some draws out there so I bet out hoping for a call or a raise behind me. After sb c/r I just mini raise for info from the btn, after he is gone I feel a little more comfortable with my hand. SB calls with great odds so I think he is likely on a draw.

Turn- Not as scary as a spade but it still slows me down. If I make a bet here I feel I will be commited to the pot. I figure I'll check behind and if the river blanks I'll call/make a value bet.

River- 4 to a straight on the board. I fold as I feel so much of his range now beats me and a lot of the hands I can beat don't bet here. I've played very douchy so I'm likely getting bluffed out by a busted flush draw a fair bit too.

My anaylsis is, (1) don't get involved in the first place just let the hand go pf though my odds seemed good, (2) I should do a proper 4bet on this flop... I didn't think a set was likely here because I figured either sb or btn would have 3bet pf with JJ TT... 22 is possible but unlikely... JT was a possibility from either player and fits the PF play pretty well. A flush/staight/combo draw or a TP type hand seem most likely. (3) The turn was where I feel I misplayed the most but if I 4bet the flop I'm not in this situation. As played if I bet here and he comes over top do I call getting 2.5to1? Probably. If he just calls and then shoves river do I call with those odds then? Not sure, but probably not with 4 to a str8 on the board.

Anyways any advice would be appreciated especially in flaws in my play and/or thinking. I'm just getting back into poker after an extended absence.

Also, is it just experience that allows you to think quickly? I find I can't fully anaylze a hand without running out of time at the tables.
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09-13-2009 , 03:13 AM
wtf are u doing PF...

on flop: why did you min reraise? to face a ****ty spot on turn? if u think your a head, just shove. the best play is to call imo. not reraise.

pf and flop total mess.
some bad cards roll off, u prolly made a good fold...
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09-13-2009 , 04:48 AM
why are we in the hand to start with ? if you flopped a pair of jacks on a jack high board you would of struggled to get off it . As played on the flop bet sizing seems questionable
Bet the turn to charge any straight draws

I suppose we have to fold the river as hes not betting this with anything but a straight
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09-13-2009 , 03:17 PM
Playing J2o from BB isn't something I'd try in this spot, especially with UTG raise and 2 callers in front of you. You said you were looking for 2pr on the flop, but I think you'd need something much, much stronger to stay in this hand.

Fold-pre, wait for next hand.
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09-13-2009 , 03:21 PM
raise more on flop, to something like $22-25, then shove turn.
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