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2 calls i am not sure of... 2 calls i am not sure of...

11-18-2008 , 06:04 PM
1.Villain is Iwinflips, one of the best Nl1k regs, he probably views me as god aswell. He is aggro and knows about his image

Full Tilt Poker $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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UTG: $1629.25
Hero (MP): $2097.00
CO: $1942.00
BTN: $1079.00
SB: $490.00
BB: $2645.75

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is MP with 6 6
1 fold, Hero raises to $35, CO calls $35, 3 folds

Flop: ($85.00) 8 2 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $65, CO calls $65

Turn: ($215.00) A (2 players)
Hero bets $150, CO raises to $300, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $150

River: ($815.00) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $775

I was debating about raising turn to protect vs clubs and perhapaps get him to spazz around with Axc, but then decided to call. What you do on river?


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Cryptologic $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BB: $4097.79
Hero (UTG): $970.00
CO: $1010.00
BTN: $1349.50
SB: $3906.89

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is UTG with T T
Hero raises to $35, 1 fold, BTN raises to $105, 2 folds, Hero raises to $225, BTN raises to $1349.50 all in, Hero calls $745 all in

Flop: ($1955.00) 9 A K (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($1955.00) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($1955.00) 6 (2 players - 2 are all in)



2. Villain is 20/19 and very aggro postflop. He views me probably as aggro and knows that i am contibetting in 3bet pots a lot

Cryptologic $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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SB: $4222.29
Hero (BB): $977.00
UTG: $1014.00
MP: $1061.75
CO: $2012.00
BTN: $2634.89

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BB with T T
2 folds, CO raises to $40, 2 folds, Hero raises to $140, CO calls $100

Flop: ($285.00) 8 7 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $200, CO raises to $1872 all in,

I think a call here is standard, because so many draws are out, but on the other side my overall equity isn`t that good.
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11-18-2008 , 06:18 PM
Hand 1 I call, Ax clubs plays this way and so does a lower set. Most of his smaller flushes probably raise the flop.

hand 2 is pretty close for me, I think I lean towards a fold but call QQ+
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11-18-2008 , 06:33 PM
I think hand 1 is a small flush a decent amount of the time, but 22 and 2pair enough to call. Not rly sure why you think he's more opt to raise a small flush then a big one on flop Arturius?

hand 2 I'd call pretty quickly, I think the 3bet itself is sorta bad if u don't.


edit, misread

Last edited by olof86; 11-18-2008 at 06:40 PM.
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11-18-2008 , 07:17 PM
hand 2 seems like a pretty quick fold.. is this stil against IWinFlips?
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11-19-2008 , 03:28 AM
He would raise a small flush more often, because i will have flush outs vs him very often. If he has the Ac he isn`t afraid of being outdrawn that much.

2nd: I think i have to call here, because i will have air here so often...
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11-19-2008 , 04:14 AM
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2nd: I think i have to call here, because i will have air here so often...
That's not the reason you gotta call
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11-19-2008 , 06:26 AM
Why would he play the Ac that way in hand 1?
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11-19-2008 , 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Grandezza
Why would he play the Ac that way in hand 1?
ya, idk either cause op said villain was a good player
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11-19-2008 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by recallme
1.Villain is Iwinflips, one of the best Nl1k regs, he probably views me as god aswell.
Best misspelling ever, especially with context!
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11-19-2008 , 09:10 AM
Hand 1 I think we can call, he prob raises his small flushes on the flop and I don't see him with Ac since he raised turn..
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11-19-2008 , 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Daddy Warbucks
Best misspelling ever, especially with context!
freudian slip!
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11-19-2008 , 10:11 AM
1 would be a clear fold if he was original raiser as played still think its a fold vs his range esp the range of hands he would wanna minraise the turn with

2 is just pure spew given that u raised utg unless ur playing a 45/36 kinda game or something ur just never gona be ahead of his range here think u can just fold when he 3bets u or call if hes a loose 3bettor to be very careful going into a flop never ever 4bet tho

3 id call id expect to see QQ+ here at times if hes tricky or sets if he sucks and some draws think the potodds ur getting makes this a pretty easy call still
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11-19-2008 , 10:18 AM
i really want to fold 1 but idk if i can. a few have said he can have two pair/22 but would he ever ever minraise the turn with those? just hard for me to imagine
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11-19-2008 , 10:28 AM
no i chose to even neglect answering to those statements cause the combination of him minraising turn and potbetting river 22 i mean are u guys kidding urselves?
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11-19-2008 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Grandezza
Why would he play the Ac that way in hand 1?
Why would he call the flop with it? Its a low flop, he probably doesn't feel like he's moving recallme off too much, and stack size vs whats in the pot, he probably doesn't feel the need to raise, float and move him off turns since recallme probably doesn't barrel here enough.

Why would he minraise the turn? Forces a mistake from recallme often as he'll have an overpair + club type hand which will wrongly call, and it looks very bluffy.

I'm thinking from another perspective, why would he play a flush this way? I guess he could, I just think its suspicious and he has to know it looks donkish, which if he's good is the entire point. I don't know, I'm probably off base here.
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11-19-2008 , 10:49 AM
i would definately agree with u arturius unless he bets the amount he does on the riv betting 775/815 wont give him that much more foldequity than if he would bet 600/815 and usually esp amongst decent/good players its a reason for this, they dont want foldequity, they want value
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11-19-2008 , 01:48 PM
I like the discussion so far and wanna thank everyone who answeerd.

Ok to the hand in which i had a set:

I think i was unprecise in my second post. I think he could slowplay Axcc and not the Acxo or other high club flushes.
Lower flushes should raise for protection and the Ac should raise flop, or?

Is our hand only a bluff catcher or do we expect him to bet worse hands like that. I think that him value playing weaker hands like that is unlikely, but perhaps he raised turn with a weaker hand to protect and somehow turned it into a bluff onriver(unlikely aswell becasue of sizing)? He is def sure that i won`t show up with a flush here on turn that often, becasue of turn, and this widens his bluffrange alot.
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11-19-2008 , 04:57 PM
unless he makes ******ed valuebets like this with AQ ur hand is always a bluffcatcher given turnplay think it almost goes without saying no good player would rr like that on the turn with a decent AcX hand risking to get reraised or obv folding out potential riverbluffs / rivervalue
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