No reads on either player. Both just sat down at the table within the last two orbits. No show down hands yet.

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
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MP2: $94.70
CO: $437
BTN: $422.90
SB: $475.40
BB: $221.10
UTG: $295.70
Hero (UTG+1): $537.50
UTG+2: $348
MP1: $212

Pre-Flop: J A dealt to Hero (UTG+1)
UTG calls $4, Hero raises to $18, MP2 calls $18, UTG calls $14

Bad raise here? I think this was right after set over set so I was a little tilty.

Flop: ($60) J 8 7 (3 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $77, MP2 calls $76.70 and is All-In, UTG raises to $277.70 and is All-In. Hero calls?

Idk about directly putting MP2 all-in here. In hindsight, I feel like I should've standard c-bet $48 here and just put him on the turn if he just called. When UTG pushed, I was pretty annoyed and had no clue what to do. Help?

flop i think regular c-bet is much better than 77, because most likely if shorty was gonna call off the rest of his stack, he'll probably raise the flop or call another turn bet. saves you some money, because you dont know what to expect from UTG. as played, i fold this flop super-standardly

Bet 77 on flop is bad. Of course you fold now.

Yeah, bet a normal amount, and turbomuck to UTG shove

yea ur boned

eh I'd expect to be ahead here pretty often against an unknown but the equity stuff isn't as pretty since it's slightly ahead or virtually dead

kinda torn though cuz the sizing of stuff is bordering right on the territory where shoving doesn't look too strong (doesn't want action) and we might be barely at the point where there's just not quite enough room for a smaller milking raise from big hands

I think I call here, but you put yourself in a **** spot. He has a combo draw a lot.

But do you guys calling with A?

yup that'd be an easy call. getting roughly 490:200 odds. Plus you might already have the best hand.

yea Ah in our hand makes this a superstandard call

well, i think this is a call cause his shove usually represents a desperate hand in a dry sidepot not a nut hand something like AhXx so I don't realy see how OP can fold.

agree, thats what I was thinking. He could also have like KhTx and stuff like that.

most dudes aren't going to be semi-bluffing into a dry side pot... our equity here comes from the times that he is trying to protect a worse made hand. often though that hand has a heart in it so we're not too much better than a flip

Constantly thinking people are trying to bluff you is a good way to lose a lot in NL.

You bet too much on the flop, but you already knew that. Unless this person is insane, best case scenario they have KJ with the K of hearts, which isn't an awesome situation anyway.

Given a moderately generous range for your opponent, here's how I pokerstoved it:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

26,730 games 0.005 secs 5,346,000 games/sec

Board: Jh 7h 8h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 28.043% 26.74% 01.31% 7147 349.00 { AdJd }
Hand 1: 71.957% 70.65% 01.31% 18885 349.00 { JJ, 88-77, AhKh, KhQh, JhTh, T9s, 6h5h, AcKh, AdKh, AhKc, AhKs, AsKh, AcQh, AdQh, AhQc, AhQd, AhQs, AsQh, AcJh, AdJh, AsJh, KhJc, KhJd, KhJs, QhJc, QhJd, QhJs }

You're not getting near enough equity to call.

wait, excuse me?

AK should not be in this range, more AhXx hands should be in and more JX hands should be in. This will improve our equity. If he shows JhTh then change sites.

You're right, J10hh shouldn't be in the range, but I'm missing every other J10 hand that should be in the range. No matter what, no way you can realistically find a range that hits the 56 percent equity that he needs to call.

56% equity? excuse me?

yea, wtf?

Excuse me, I was too busy smoking crack.

Still, not going to find a range for his needed 37ish percent equity.

I think it's 29%.

that's assuming we have the other guy beat though which was the reason for the flop bet size in the first place