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2/4 - facing raise w. overpair on drawy flop vs lag 2/4 - facing raise w. overpair on drawy flop vs lag

08-09-2010 , 08:28 PM
Vilian speelt 30/23 3b 12 over 185 hand
raise cb 28% fwiw with this sample

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $4(BB) Replayer
SB ($763)
BB ($896)
Hero ($396)
CO ($406)
BTN ($447)

Dealt to Hero J J

Hero raises to $12, CO calls $12, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($30) 8 3 4

Hero bets $22, CO raises to $66, Hero calls $44

TURN ($162) 8 3 4 4

Hero checks, CO bets $61, Hero raises to $318 (AI), CO calls $257

RIVER ($798) 8 3 4 4 K

Is this a fine line to take?


And another hand

Vilian plays 25/17 3b 7.1 over 500 hands
raise cb 14%

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $4(BB) Replayer
SB ($1,080)
BB ($406)
UTG ($663)
Hero ($406)
BTN ($394)

Dealt to Hero J K

fold, Hero raises to $12, BTN calls $12, fold, fold

FLOP ($30) 7 5 J

Hero bets $22, BTN raises to $60, Hero calls $38

TURN ($150) 7 5 J K

Hero checks, BTN bets $110, Hero raises to $334 (AI), BTN calls $212 (AI)

RIVER ($794) 7 5 J K Q
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08-10-2010 , 12:05 AM
looks fine
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08-10-2010 , 12:12 AM
i like the way you played both, in hand 2 villian is going to use that K as a barrel card always, shoving is obv fine but i wonder if ther is any point in calling the turn and maybe let him hang himself trying to get you off a bare Jx, combo draw type hands. The laggier he is i think the more this might be a better idea.

Last edited by waxies_dargle; 08-10-2010 at 12:32 AM.
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08-10-2010 , 02:40 AM
both look fine.
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08-10-2010 , 02:48 AM
playing both the same for the most part
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08-10-2010 , 06:11 AM
I am just a bit worried about the sizing in the first hand on the turn of vilian? Doesnt look that a bit suspicious ? I not sure if he will size his turn bets w/ draw or lower overpairs (if he raises these on the flop) this small.
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08-10-2010 , 07:11 AM
You should definitely be 3betting these types of flops more against this type of villain. In hand 1 you should be thinking about what you are going to do on a blank turn; if you call, it should be a no-brainier. Hand 2 should be an easy shove, but just realize that if you are losing money there ask why he always shows up with the goods.
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08-10-2010 , 09:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollos
; if you call, it should be a no-brainier.
True, but this sizing really was worrying me. It doesn't make much sense to bet that size w/ draw when he wants FE or when he has an overpair and wants protection/value.
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