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02-14-2011 , 12:32 AM

Mossberg

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Villain is competent 24/19/4 reg. I flat pf for a number of good reasons, so I'm not interested in discussing that. Villain should view me as aggro 24/21. Only recent/relevant history that I recall is me raise/folding a KXX flop btn vs sb.

Sure seems like QJ, can I get away at any point?

$5/$10 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($743)
CO ($1,097)
Hero (BTN) ($1,021.50)
SB ($960)
BB ($843)

Pre-Flop: ($15, 5 players) Hero is BTN A

1 fold, CO raises to $30, Hero calls $30, 2 folds

Flop: 10

($75, 2 players)
CO bets $50, Hero raises to $175, CO calls $125

Turn: A

($425, 2 players)
CO bets $284, Hero calls $284

River: 3

($993, 2 players)
CO bets $608, Hero ??? (~530 to call)

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02-14-2011 , 12:51 AM

SA3

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seems pretty ****** but i dont see how you can possibly fold

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02-14-2011 , 01:06 AM

Imaginary F(r)iend

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Call me station, but I can't fold this. Maybe KQ/KJ/J9 getting tricky. A lower set maybe, very, very unlikely but still possible.

Last edited by Imaginary F(r)iend; 02-14-2011 at 01:18 AM.

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02-14-2011 , 01:07 AM

GSWarriors

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OK, fold. is that what you wanted to hear? whats the reason for posting this hand?

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02-14-2011 , 01:09 AM

***

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Originally Posted by GSWarriors

OK, fold. is that what you wanted to hear? whats the reason for posting this hand?

Did it occur to you that it might be legitimately close?

Board: Ks Ts 5h Ac 2h

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 23.810% 23.81% 00.00% 5 0.00 { AhAs }
Hand 1: 76.190% 76.19% 00.00% 16 0.00 { QJs, 9s8s, 8s7s, 7s6s, 6s5s, 5s4s, QJo }

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02-14-2011 , 01:17 AM

fov

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Originally Posted by ***

this range is wrong.
AKs AKo KK TT 55 and possibly AT are all in there.

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02-14-2011 , 01:49 AM

olof86

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this feels like 2+2s counterpart to a facerape

if he's competent he wouldn't be taking a line where his range will consist of only one hand, and just that should make it a clear call

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02-14-2011 , 02:02 AM

oh-nahhh

Donking it

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i dont play msnl but isnt there merit in a shove trying to get called by worse value hands since the board is so drawheavy? i feel like villain has a lot of 2pairs and stuff idk this is kind of discouraging since im considering taking a shot higher than my usual 200nl and i seem like the only one who doesnt even consider folding

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02-14-2011 , 02:07 AM

Penguinz21

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Originally Posted by olof86

if he's competent he wouldn't be taking a line where his range will consist of only one hand, and just that should make it a clear call

This.

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02-14-2011 , 02:09 AM

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ScoobyDooo

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Originally Posted by ***

lol you can make anything seem close depending on what you choose to plug into pokerstove

im snapping it off and pretty happy about it tbh. i think we are fairly well ahead of his range here

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02-14-2011 , 02:09 AM

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Roger Mainfield

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I don't think about folding.

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02-14-2011 , 02:11 AM

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The Velour Fog

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Originally Posted by oh-nahhh

and i seem like the only one who doesnt even consider folding

dont worry, no msnl reg would ever fold this.

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02-14-2011 , 02:20 AM

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Mossberg

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yea, thanks guys. I guess this is what I expected everyone to say. I did call down, of course.

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02-14-2011 , 03:43 AM

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imfromsweden

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and?

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02-14-2011 , 03:46 AM

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oh-nahhh

Donking it

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villain had qj ldo...even i know that hands like this dont get posted unless they lost. nobody balances their posting range ime

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02-14-2011 , 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by oh-nahhh

villain had qj ldo...even i know that hands like this dont get posted unless they lost. nobody balances their posting range ime

Or it's a reverse

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02-14-2011 , 05:12 AM

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BuddhaMonk187

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yeah veeery easy call - putting him on QJ only is just really bad, if he's good. villian can easily play TT,KK, AK this way.. beside J9ss,89ss,etc.

I like villains line in general, but not on this turn card. I'd like the donk with a mixed range of sets,TPTKs, draws when the turn didnt complete a lot of heros raising range(QJ,AJ,AQ,Asx,..)

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