PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
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Hero (BTN): 105 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 104.19 BB unknown
UTG: 111.31 BB
MP: 101.5 BB
CO: 84.56 BB


Hello guys How would you play this hand would shoving turn be best ?
If villain is a nit how would you play this hand thanks !

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q K
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.56 BB, fold, BB raises to 11 BB, Hero calls 8.44 BB

Flop : (22.5 BB, 2 players) K K 6
BB bets 7.13 BB, Hero calls 7.13 BB

Turn : (36.75 BB, 2 players) 8
BB bets 26.38 BB, Hero calls 26.38 BB

River : (89.5 BB, 2 players) 9
BB bets 59.69 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 59.69 BB

there's 4 combo's of AK left, and 6 combos of 66. If he's a nit I don't expect him to barrel flop with 88 or 99 too often. I think his range will be a-lot of AA. maybe he has KJs even.

I would have a hard time folding the river since you need to be good 28% of the time.

If villains value range is AK,AA or 66. That is a total of 13 combos

we lose to AK and 66 which make up 7 combos, we beat the other 6.

even if villain has 88 in his range that means we lose to 10 combos and beat 6.

6/16= 37.5

We win 37.5% of the time we only need to win 28%. Now if villain doesn't play AA this way then I can see a possible fold I think.

you have not accounted for flushes.

regardless, almost impossible to fold unless huge nit.

What flushes does a nit have here?

hey man your at the top of your range just dont fold this even at 16z!

I dont think 66 would be 3-bet pre by a nit but he can have 88, 99 i expect to check or bet smaller turn.

If he has you beat he has you beat. Theres nothing you can do.

i'm sure you know all the potential available ones, probably over 10 of them, of which we can maybe give a big nit at least 3 or 4.

No I have no clue, what flush-draws does a nit barrel flop with? Kd is on the board. Nits dont bluff with suited face-cards and no made hand do they?

i guess the most likely are prob AQ, AJ, QJ, JT, then A5, A4, AT, QT, 45, stretching down to other random Axs, some T7 stuff, maybe occasionally 65 or 67 too.

sure, some might not 3b and might not play post-flop like this but i think it would be wrong to not give him at least a few combos, especially when the total range you've assigned him is 16 combos the impact is significant.

Nits are extremely tight, they dont bluff overcards in a 3bet pot and half the hands you mentioned a Nit doesn’t have in his 3-betting range. They play an extremely tight range.

i agree but i still believe they find at minimum 3 or 4 of these combos overall. if your experience tells you differently to mine, that's fine, we'll just have to disagree.

always calling. it sort of sucks he 3b the bb and not the sb but you just cant fold this. i feel like you lost to a flush which is why you're asking about shoving the turn lol.

Lol thats hilarious I wasn’t even thinking about that. I feel like if OP did lose to flush his idea of jamming turn may be somewhat result orientated. On the turn what would we jam for value against that we are beating?

For it to be a shove for value we need to be besting more than 50% of villains range?

It’s different when we’re on the turn, on the river we have to be better than 50% to make a profitable value bet, but on the turn you have to take equity into account. Its a totally different situation. And I also disagree that he has close to no flushes, even nits barrel high equity hands.

Can you name some high equity hands your referring to that s nit barrels with on the flop and turn? When I say for it to be a shove for value , I mean do we need to be beating half villains value range to make the call, and I think the answer is no I think we only need to make the call if we are winning equal to or more than the pot odds we are being given.

Imo if he is semi bluffing 2 streets with diamonds I would not label him a nit. Did OP fold or call? Any spoilers please

For nitty range flop is range bet for any sizing he choose from that is smaller than shove, nits dont shove aces on river, they check call or check fold them, so hero is against some boats, some trips and flushes, against this range we are not good 28% of the time, villain dont have enaugh, or any bluffs.