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11-27-2012 , 07:46 PM
PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $13.67
BB: $22.02
UTG: $23.52
MP: $13.18
Hero (CO): $16.00
BTN: $16.00

SB posts SB $0.08, BB posts BB $0.16

Pre Flop: ($0.24) Hero has K Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.48, fold, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.32

Flop: ($1.44, 3 players) J K Q
SB bets $0.80, BB calls $0.80, Hero raises to $5.12, SB raises to $13.19 and is all-in, BB raises to $21.26, Hero ??

Both villains Unknown. What hands make sense here? I'm beaten only to JJ-KK, AT and T9. But I can rule out QQ and KK. So I lose only to JJ,AT and T9. Of those hands I think someone would have 3B pre JJ or at least BB would have raise the flop and not just call. If SB has a straight why donk bet? On the other hand I don't beat much either. KJ,QJ,AA,KT,AK, can't think of much else.. So it's a fold or should I call? and was the flop raise ok?
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11-28-2012 , 12:40 AM
BB's call/shove over makes me feel ill. I really don't see him doing that with anything you beat. If he's going to slowplay a flopped straight this is the board he's going to do it on. Even the biggest fish is going to think twice about continuing after your/SB's raise with a worse two pair especially since he's not even a tenth invested yet.

Worse, if one of them did flop a straight, the other guy is probably holding some of the few outs you have.

I know it's weak thinking to assume vill flopped the nuts but you're also hoping vills have exactly {KhJx, KdJx, QJ, AxKj, AxKd} between them. That's not a lot of hands. I just don't think you're beating both of these clowns.
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11-28-2012 , 12:57 AM
Also in that scenario everyone would be blocking everyone else, so you're basically hoping both vills have both remaining kings and two of the three remaining jacks, and maybe throw in a QJ combo for SB acting with incomplete info/bad positioning. you lose if either of them has one of the many AT combos left or JJ/QQ/KK and you're chopping with other KQs.
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11-28-2012 , 04:29 AM
flop raise is way too big
make it like 3.25
when sb shoves and bb overshoves it's a clear fold
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11-28-2012 , 05:30 AM
Donking into 2 people on this board is strength IMO. I'd call the flop. Try and get to show down. If the turn get's check to you, I'd still value bet/fold.
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11-28-2012 , 01:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NVF
flop raise is way too big
make it like 3.25
when sb shoves and bb overshoves it's a clear fold
Raising 3BB is way too big?
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11-28-2012 , 01:46 PM
i dont mind the flop raise but its too big, were never bluffing and when we get jammed over and re jammed, i dont think were ever ahead in this spot

i like a raise/call it off vs the non full stack, against a reg not so much esp 3way
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11-28-2012 , 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by leproso88
Raising 3BB is way too big?
No he meant the raise OTF, where it went $.80 to $5.12. He's suggesting you make it more like $2.60
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11-29-2012 , 11:58 PM
PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $13.67
BB: $22.02
UTG: $23.52
MP: $13.18
Hero (CO): $16.00
BTN: $16.00

SB posts SB $0.08, BB posts BB $0.16

Pre Flop: ($0.24) Hero has K Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.48, fold, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.32

Flop: ($1.44, 3 players) J K Q
SB bets $0.80, BB calls $0.80, Hero raises to $5.12, SB raises to $13.19 and is all-in, BB raises to $21.26, Hero calls $10.40 and is all-in

Turn: ($45.67, 3 players) T

River: ($45.67, 3 players) 9

BB shows T A (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 32%, Flop 41%, Turn 35%)
Hero shows K Q (Straight Flush, King High) (Pre 43%, Flop 22%, Turn 30%)
SB shows T A (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 26%, Flop 37%, Turn 35%)
Hero wins $44.17

I got lucky, but yes, I think I should have raised smaller or just called and then folded.
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11-30-2012 , 12:16 AM
lol nh
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11-30-2012 , 01:30 AM
That must have felt good
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