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05-27-2012 , 03:11 PM
CO is a bad reg, was playing 26/18 with a 80% f23b over 10 times.

SB solid reg 20/18 who views me as spewy. Although I've seen him flat a 4bet OOP and shove a K22 flop with KQ. Also he doesn't have auto top up.

Poker Stars $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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CO: $18.27
Hero (BTN): $18.37
SB: $11.20
BB: $19.84
UTG: $24.83

Pre Flop: ($0.24) Hero is BTN with J K
1 fold, CO raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, SB calls $1.12, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.96) 2 7 K (2 players)
SB bets $2.12, Hero calls $2.12

Hero is confused. Can't figure out what hand he would lead with when he knows I'm cbetting 100%

Turn: ($7.20) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $7.88 all in, Hero calls $7.88

River: ($22.96) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

What on earth does he represent here? If he sees me as a spewy player then would you include hands like TT/JJ in his range trying to make me shove air on the flop? Is calling the turn just horrible?

Last edited by dalonelybaptist; 05-27-2012 at 03:18 PM.
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05-27-2012 , 03:30 PM
Looks like a set, or let me say it like this. If I had flopped a set there, I would donkbet the flop as well. I'm folding turn, can not see wtf we're beating.
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05-27-2012 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Hicham009
Looks like a set, or let me say it like this. If I had flopped a set there, I would donkbet the flop as well. I'm folding turn, can not see wtf we're beating.
I know this guy wouldn't set mine when i 3bet BTN.
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05-27-2012 , 04:03 PM
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What on earth does he represent here? If he sees me as a spewy player then would you include hands like TT/JJ in his range trying to make me shove air on the flop?
This makes no sense to me, that K on the flop hits your 3bet range very hard, you're asking us if he;s betting to induce a ****** bluff from you? No, I doubt that.

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Although I've seen him flat a 4bet OOP and shove a K22 flop with KQ
What do we beat if you take out the fact that you think he's trying to get you to bluff? pretty much nothing.
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05-27-2012 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dalonelybaptist
SB solid reg 20/18 who views me as spewy. Although I've seen him flat a 4bet OOP and shove a K22 flop with KQ. Also he doesn't have auto top up.
Right... I just can't resist and ask... How do You know how villain views You?
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05-27-2012 , 04:11 PM
Flat pre. Your hand is too good to turn into a bluff. As played I fold, wouldn't be surprised to see AA/AK or even KQ with the history you have.
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05-27-2012 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Hmpf!
Right... I just can't resist and ask... How do You know how villain views You?
Because I've made some pretty bad semi bluffs when he has been at the table + against him like 3/4 times (a non representative sample)
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05-27-2012 , 04:55 PM
Why would you want to 3bet pre with this hand when his fold to 3bet is high?

Your strategy should be to 3bet him constantly with a polarized range and flatting hands that has him slightly dominated. This way you're only getting called by better.
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05-27-2012 , 04:57 PM
90% reg has a set here with the donk bet... he has a good chacne one of you guys have a King and was thinking if one of you guys have a king you guys would push and get it in on the flop. a good reg is never going to be bluffing in this spot this is pure value.
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05-27-2012 , 05:01 PM
I'm probably folding to the flop donk bet. It's a three bet pot and he is donking into the three bettor on Kh board. Looks like a set or he has you dominated.
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05-27-2012 , 07:38 PM
Thanks for replies all, I was 3betting the opener with a huge range of hands I guess KJ slipped under the flat for value net.

He had AK, calling turn was dreadful I guess and with previous reads I could probably even fold flop.
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05-27-2012 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dalonelybaptist
Thanks for replies all, I was 3betting the opener with a huge range of hands I guess KJ slipped under the flat for value net.

He had AK, calling turn was dreadful I guess and with previous reads I could probably even fold flop.
dont 3bet with hands when villain's 3bet calling range has you crushed. personally, im folding pre.
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05-27-2012 , 11:44 PM
^Folding pre is way too nitty here, we have him dominated way to often. If you were going to fold, though, this would be a hand to 3b bluff with since it would be close to the top of your folding range. If his calling range has us crushed, then he's folding often enough for our bluff to be profitable.
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