So, villain is an incredible donk and will gamble with ATC it seems...given the following two hands from the same match...(he basically took a big lead by call/call/shove on last hand)

Full Tilt Poker $11 + $0.50 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 2 players
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BB: t2250 M = 30
Hero (BTN/SB): t750 M = 10

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BTN/SB with A K
Hero calls t25, BB raises to t100, Hero raises to t750 all in, BB calls t650

Final Pot: t1500
BB shows T 8 (a pair of Kings)
Hero shows A K (a full house, Kings full of Aces)
Hero wins t1500

and... (after he doubled through by calling a shove with A7, obv std)


BB: t1850 M = 12.33
Hero (BTN/SB): t1150 M = 7.67

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is BTN/SB with A A
Hero raises to t200, BB calls t100

Flop: (t400) 4 4 Q (2 players)
BB bets t400, Hero raises to t950 all in, BB calls t550

Turn: (t2300) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t2300) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t2300
BB shows 5 6 (a pair of Fours)
Hero shows A A (two pair, Aces and Fours)
Hero wins t2300

He didn't fold to a single PFR the entire match, so I adjusted by limping some, which he then adjusted to by minraising my limps, hence the non-standard way I played the above hands (comments welcome on those too).

But my main question now is this....and I'm sure it's a matter of just plugging in ranges...but what is our ~10BB shoving range when it's very difficult to determine just how loose he may be calling, which based on the game could be ATC?

If I put it in SNGPT, and have him calling with 50% or better (??), then I can only shove the following range...22+,A2+,K8o+,K6s+,QTo+,Q9s+ (29.7%), which is fairly tight for ~8 BB eff stacks imo. In other words, now that I have a big lead (again), do I really need to tighten my shoving range this much?

Thoughts?

dont think of it as "man im up i can shove looser or man im down i gotta tighten up my shoving range". the key is to shove the exact same range weather ur up or down based on eff. stacks and ur opp calling range.

btw its always profitable to shove 22+,Ax,Kx with <10BB stacks

Right - no my question is what is the best way to put an extremely unpredictable player on an accurate calling range...in order to then determine my profitable shoving range.

I dont shove vs these players with 10bb , I minraise my normal range until 5-7bb then shove something like 22+ Q8+ Kx+ Ax+ depending on how much he resteals/3bets etc if villain is willing to gamble with ATC then obv you can shove wider but there are still spots you can be ahead more by shoving a range that plays well and has good equity even with short stacks.