Hi all,

Should I have shoved or folded this flop instead?

Hand history messed up. Villain bet river and hero folds.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $14.68 (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
Hero (SB): $13.10
BB: $11.16
UTG: $10.34 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
MP: $10.00 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 37.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
CO: $5.20 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 1)

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A A

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.35, fold, Hero raises to $0.90, BB calls $0.80, CO calls $0.55

Flop: ($2.70, 3 players) T J Q
Hero bets $1.93, BB raises to $4.30, fold, Hero calls $2.37

Turn: ($11.30, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($11.30, 2 players) 3
Hero bets $6.10, fold,

Looking at this again-

Thoughts are flop bet call is ok- Does anyone play flop differently?

Once villain checks turn then bets river (HH messed up its villain betting not hero) I feel villains range is AQs/KQs heavy and I probably should have called that river donk. Anyone disagree?

Not folding this to a 50bb stack.

Vs unknown 100bb i find a fold otf

what about a flop check here?

i mean sure we're giving cards like KT a free cards to hit his straight (even though we block the AA). Ye we can cbet with the argument that we need protection against that but then again, we're just beat so often already here. Think JTs QJs QTs 89s, and when we check I think hands like AQ, KQ are going to bet themselves anyway.

And what if we get raised flop? (like we do)

I think I like x/call here

when he checks back turn it looks like showdown value that's afraid of your TX, so I dont think he has a straight very often, however I dont think he'd just raise flop with KQ or AQ often so I still think u can fold it.

^ ya x flop is good.

But vs 50bb i think it almost does not matter.

What 50BB stack are u talking about..? CO folded otf?

Im folding river for sure. But mabye we can even fold otf, he raises vs 2opponents on that flop so he's very strong here, if our only out K comes were never getting him to call with worse or it's a chop so.. I like c/c flop also

Just fold on flop on TJQ, he might have TT,JJ,QQ,QJ,KF,Monsterdraws and agaisnt good draws we are not even flipping.
I just fold OVerpairs to flopraises 3-way at theese stakes, esp on this ugly board, how should you make money, you won but you dont win more, this call is just wasting money imo.
And at river, which worser hands should call here.
I think with giving him 2 freecards and fold if he misses, we lose money overall of course, esp oop.

With checking and calling the pot isnt that big and we still have some Backdoors and they could check.

With overpair, NSD, and BDNFD, I like x/c flop since we can easily get raised here. This isn't a board we are getting 3 streets of value from unless we hit the nuts.

Oops misread

I agree - you 3 bet pre, the flop is uber wet but you definitely have AK as part of your range - there's no reason to really bet this flop against two villains, it's a WAWB situation, if you check and the flop gets check around you're probably good on a safe turn card - any set or two paid or str8 is betting that flop, so by x/c you keep the pot small because by betting you've asked a question and by being raised with still 1 to act, you got ur answer.

wouldn't be surprised to see 1010,JJ, 89,10J, JQ, AK - KK By bet calling you've turned ur hand into a bluff catcher and given the villain a chance to bluff you off the best hand on a street most players are most comfortable bluffing - I'd check the flop - as you're not comfortable getting it in or massively ahead of 2 players ranges given the flop, as played fold river or fold to flop raise depending on how aggro/passive the villain is and head for Clichè town and "wait for a better spot"