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01-14-2014 , 09:41 AM

Heimdallr

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 171

Hi, villain is playing 27/21/6 over 336 hands.

The turn was a check fold right ?

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #22290771

BTN: $14.83 (148.3 bb)
SB: $4.90 (49 bb)
Hero (BB): $25.95 (259.5 bb)
UTG: $11.83 (118.3 bb)
MP: $20.59 (205.9 bb)
CO: $10.94 (109.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.65) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

River: ($4.05) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2.10, Hero folds

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01-14-2014 , 09:44 AM

Deeepz

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 5,137

im not folding river a lot

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01-14-2014 , 09:45 AM

TWhelan

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 8,754

wp until river, should probably call there although I dunno

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01-14-2014 , 09:58 AM

fsn

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,286

call river

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01-14-2014 , 10:28 AM

telf14

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 399

pretty close but sigh call I suppose

his sizing looks like QQ-AA a lot

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01-14-2014 , 10:33 AM

envelope

adept

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,049

call because no one bluffs me

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01-14-2014 , 10:33 AM

NTS

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 467

3b pre with this stack sizes.

If you where 100 BB deep, fold.

Turn-river is fine.

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01-14-2014 , 10:34 AM

NTS

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 467

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Originally Posted by telf14

his sizing looks like QQ-AA a lot

Do we beat QQ-AA here?

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01-14-2014 , 10:38 AM

telf14

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 399

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Originally Posted by NTS

3b pre with this stack sizes.

If you where 100 BB deep, fold.

Turn-river is fine.

dont 3b pre imo, plays fine closing action with good odds and not great playing it OOP in a bloated 3bp 200 deep

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Originally Posted by NTS

Do we beat QQ-AA here?

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01-14-2014 , 10:49 AM

#10

NTS

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 467

So why would you ever call if u beat literally nothing?

Its no good playing it OOP in general, vs. a better range.

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01-14-2014 , 10:52 AM

#11

telf14

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 399

well its no good building a bigger pot to play OOP against an even tighter range is it?

River we beat some bluffs that might do this to make Tx fold, like clubs that cbet flop and barreled the bdfd. He might be value betting thinly with J9 or rivered AJ, he could have 76s that barreled turn missed river etc

It's not great, but I think it's +EV.

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01-14-2014 , 03:03 PM

#12

fsn

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,286

[ ] beat literally nothing
[x] beat bluffs
[x] beat part of his value range

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01-14-2014 , 07:51 PM

#13

NeA

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 603

raise(as a bluff)>fold>call imo.

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01-14-2014 , 07:56 PM

#14

telf14

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 399

Bluff raising is so ridiculous sorry

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01-14-2014 , 07:59 PM

#15

Deeepz

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 5,137

Better turn top of range into bluff

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01-14-2014 , 08:03 PM

#16

Ohhesdamned

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,882

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Originally Posted by Deeepz

Better turn top of range into bluff

Top of our folding range yeh

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01-14-2014 , 08:06 PM

#17

Deeepz

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 5,137

Yeah probably not top of our range but we have way better hands to turn into bluff

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01-14-2014 , 08:11 PM

#18

Ezzalor

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 623

fold river, wp

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01-14-2014 , 08:17 PM

#19

Ohhesdamned

old hand

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Call river

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01-14-2014 , 08:36 PM

#20

telf14

grinder

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Bluffing with anything otr is probably a bad idea

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01-14-2014 , 08:40 PM

#21

VantACoo-key?

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 3,119

I station river

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01-14-2014 , 09:09 PM

#22

ronrabbit

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,662

3 betting this pre wouldn't be terra-bad if you 3bet your bb alot....calling is fine also......
River is just a call I think, an ugh take the full time bank, sigh, he probably has queens but I don't think I can fold call.....and then go on massive tilt when villan shows qq and scream I knew he had ******* queens, why did I ******* call, i hate this ******* game......ooooh 82o raise/4bet/6bet jam.....oh crap he has aces.....oooooh i flopped trips.....i love this ******* game........

Or is this just my life?

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01-14-2014 , 10:02 PM

#23

gcoho

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 476

its pretty thin, but i would probably call. you are probably 40-60 to his range depending on how liberal you want to make it.

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01-14-2014 , 10:51 PM

#24

Donald Sanger

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 150

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Originally Posted by ronrabbit

This imo

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