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01-23-2014 , 07:06 PM
[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #22559711

BTN: $10.52 (105.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $10.65 (106.5 bb)
BB: $11.02 (110.2 bb)
UTG: $9.36 (93.6 bb)
MP: $7.83 (78.3 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K J
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.60) 8 K J (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets $0.38, Hero calls $0.38, BB calls $0.38

Turn: ($1.74) 9 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets $1.12, Hero calls $1.12, BB folds

River: ($3.98) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.58, Hero calls $2.58



I think it's a fold on the river. What bets 3st here that I beat here worse 2 pair and maybe some broken draws. Possibly raising the flop might have been a better idea.

Villain is unknown 45/27 over 12 hands 60% SD with those hands.
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01-23-2014 , 07:44 PM
River fold?wtf dude?
c/r flop and go b/b/b and as played i will reraise river for value and call if he ship it.
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01-23-2014 , 07:45 PM
Apologies I wrote the subject before I found the hand. It was at the start of my session and was in the back of mind to post at the end of my session.
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01-23-2014 , 07:46 PM
Why are u flatting the F w/ semi wet board + OOP ? There are so many T cards that are ugly or "not good" for our Hand.
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01-23-2014 , 07:46 PM
x/c river is fine, not many worse hands call a raise there, ^not raise call river ofc lol
x/c flop is also fine , he seems very agressive
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01-23-2014 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by acky
Why are u flatting the F w/ semi wet board + OOP ? There are so many T cards that are ugly or "not good" for our Hand.
i know that this isn't very important at 10nl , but i bet you couldn't polarize a x/r range here otf without having the nuts
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01-23-2014 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by $undance
Apologies I wrote the subject before I found the hand. It was at the start of my session and was in the back of mind to post at the end of my session.
Yes i see,also 3bet it pre imo and general you should me 3 bet a lot vs min opener.
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01-23-2014 , 07:50 PM
I definitely agree with raising the flop. As played though does he ever ship worse hands if we raise otr, he's virtually an unknown.
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01-23-2014 , 07:50 PM
^noobis wrong again.. calling is also fine vs a guy so agressive with a hand that is ahead of his range but you don't want to get 4bet'ed
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01-23-2014 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by $undance
I definitely agree with raising the flop. As played though does he ever ship worse hands if we raise otr, he's virtually an unknown.
what hands do you have here that x/r the flop except 88's or KJ, calling is completely standart
i would be more inclined to raise in a vacuum v is an unkown , but wouldn't do it as default
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01-23-2014 , 07:53 PM
Yeah 3bet is fine, but I like flatting as it's good against a steal but not if he calls the 3bet
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01-23-2014 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MartimC
what hands do you have here that x/r the flop except 88's or KJ, calling is completely standart
i would be more inclined to raise in a vacuum v is an unkown , but wouldn't do it as default
Hmm I was thinking more a long the lines of 'will worse hands call a raise in this spot' which I think they would.
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01-23-2014 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by $undance
Yeah 3bet is fine, but I like flatting as it's good against a steal but not if he calls the 3bet
Its kind of thin reraising river but its def a call,and imo pre that you dont 3 bet it looks crapy to me.gl bro
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01-23-2014 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MartimC
^noobis wrong again.. calling is also fine vs a guy so agressive with a hand that is ahead of his range but you don't want to get 4bet'ed
solid
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01-23-2014 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by $undance
Hmm I was thinking more a long the lines of 'will worse hands call a raise in this spot' which I think they would.
what if call flop and fold turn, just because you don't have bluffs in your range, when you can instead x/c x/c x/c or x/r on some runnouts and win more
ap you got max value vs bluffs and got max value against made hands most of the times
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01-23-2014 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by noobis
Its kind of thin reraising river but its def a call,and imo pre that you dont 3 bet it looks crapy to me.gl bro
What sort of hands do you flat in the blinds vs a steal or are you a 3bet or fold kind of guy?
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01-23-2014 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MartimC
what if call flop and fold turn, just because you don't have bluffs in your range, when you can instead x/c x/c x/c or x/r on some runnouts and win more
ap you got max value vs bluffs and got max value against made hands most of the times
So my line is fine. Do you think he fires 3 barrels multiway with bluffs I just think I lose more often than I win in this spot. I'm going to stove it on Sunday, I'll let you know. Gotta sleep now. Cheers.
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01-23-2014 , 08:57 PM
I prolly would've x/r the flop and bet all the way, unless for w/e reason I really wanted BB to stay in there.
As played river is a very easy call.
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01-23-2014 , 09:19 PM
would 3bet pre, x/r flop, and x/c down if I don't x/r flop
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01-23-2014 , 09:27 PM
Lead flop if your pfr range is designed as it appears to be
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01-24-2014 , 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by (.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)
would 3bet pre, x/r flop, and x/c down if I don't x/r flop
Yah this

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01-24-2014 , 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by $undance
I think it's a fold on the river. What bets 3st here that I beat here worse 2 pair and maybe some broken draws. Possibly raising the flop might have been a better idea.

Villain is unknown 45/27 over 12 hands 60% SD with those hands.
What worse hands? AK/AA/KQ, worse 2 pairs(about only one he's fairly unlikely to have is 83 ), bluffs at least.
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01-26-2014 , 08:27 AM
Gee up Lads, stoved it give this range for 3st of bets KK+,JJ,88,9d9s,AKs,K8s+,K3s,QTs,J9s-J8s,98s,AKo,KJo+,K9o-K8o,K3o,QTo,J9o-J8o,98o.

I have 73% equity vs this range. Let me know if you think more needs adding I've just got out of bed. I'm aware the range doesn't take into account the BB who called the flop I imagine he would have blockers on some combo's. I reduced some hands combos like 99 cause I don't think he bets the flop everytime it's ch to him and so on.

cheers gl.
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