Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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UTG: $6.78
MP: $10.83
CO: $9.44
BTN: $9.52
SB: $10.35
Hero (BB): $12.74

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with Q Q
2 folds, CO calls $0.10, BTN raises to $0.60, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.90, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.30

Flop: ($3.95) K 3 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($3.95) T (2 players)
Hero bets $1.95, BTN calls $1.95

River: ($7.85) K (2 players)
Hero bets $8.89 all in, BTN calls $5.67 all in

Is this too thin? Villain is 62/7/1.5 over 30 hands, but we haven't tangled too much. I was playing pretty LAG the first few orbits and took down a lot of pots uncontested, but I'm not sure if he's capable of considering my image.

He was really passive in the hands I observed, so I elected to check flop. I think this might have been a mistake and I should have valuebet but I didn't want to see a turn OOP with less than a PSB left if he just called. My thinking process was that he'd bet AK or even KQ, so I put a lot of mid pocket pairs in his range when he checks back. So I decide to bet turn and shove river when another K comes out hoping for JJ or AT to pay off. Not sure if my thinking is right or too optimistic. Is there a better line to take?

3b sizing is too small also?

3b size is fine

Bet the flop though, there are a lot of hands in his range worse then yours that will probably peel, bet the turn, and depending on whether he stabs when checked to with his air/whiffed draws, chk call the river, or bet it yourself.

With this sort of villain, you are usually better to bet bet bet for value until they play back at you.

If I bet flop for halfpot I'm left with like 2/3 PSB on turn. So I don't really see how we can c/c after we bet turn.

Do you just shove a blank on the turn after betting flop and hope he has like TT, JJ?

Bet flop, as played against a fish this probably is not thin at all.. Your turn bet is to small... Btw, if he is passive then why are you checking to him?

Just wanted to mention that the villain wasn't the standard calling station fish, he actually took normal postflop lines from what I saw (i.e. nothing fishy postflop) and wasn't calling down with like bottom pair.

Just wondering, I thought halfpot bets in 3bet pots were standard? Especially given in this situation where there was a heap of money preflop because of his 6bb isoraise and also because he's not quite 100bb deep.

Looking back I think the river shove is maybe not that thin at all I think..

You want to get it in with him so bet accordingly.. You half pot flop and shove turn..

Half pot is ok cause the premise is to get it all in and the pot is already big, but you don't raise flop, then half pot turn and need to over bet river to get it in...

Are you talking generally about bet sizing in 3bet pots or are you referring to this hand scenario specifically? Because I didn't need to overbet river to get it in after making a halfpot bet on turn (effective stack size was like 5.60). =/

I didn't even see how much he had behind so in this case you did not have to overbet as you said, but you should be betting flop, he will call you with worse. He is 62/7..

Yeah, I agree now in retrospect that a flop bet should be for value.

But is there a major difference between betting flop, shoving turn and betting turn, shoving river? The first choice obviously is good to charge draws and protect against like an A rolling off but the second choice is good if villain has a weak made hand already that's more likely to call down when you don't cbet flop. Is this distinction accurate?

He is going to call your flop bet with all kind of hands That will call turn as well so just bet, if he was a nit then delayed cbet is fine here..

Gotcha, thanks for all the help. I thought at the time it might've been too thin, but now in hindsight it feels like a duh value spot.

Villain showed AT here.

good stuff.. fish like that will call you down with lot worse so just bet until raised..

bet flop, jam turn as played to river I like the jam, i don't expect these idiots to fold pocket fours when you jam the river for a slight overbet, and yes they can have and call an overbet river shove with 44.

he's gonna bet the flop a lot if you check and then you hate life