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09-29-2009 , 04:26 PM
Villain is running 35/15/7 over about 50 hands. Folded SB to steal 1/3 according to PT.

My image is fairly loose and aggressive but I've shown down mainly big hands.

Should we be 4betting w/ the plan of getting it in preflop against this type of villain.
As played, flop action?

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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Hero (MP2): $18.55
CO: $10.00
BTN: $10.15
SB: $6.65
BB: $12.65
UTG: $10.30
UTG+1: $10.00
UTG+2: $10.00
MP1: $8.70

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP2 with Q Q
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, SB raises to $1.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.90

Flop: ($2.50) J K 8 (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero ?
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09-29-2009 , 04:30 PM
That's a pretty high AF, but I'm not willing to say he's FOS leading 4/5 pot on the flop after the 4b pre.
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09-29-2009 , 04:40 PM
given his stacksize i get this in pre.

edit: as played i think i fold the flop, as coolman said the bet is quite big and more than comitts him,
he seems to be really looking forward to play for stacks here, so i dont think he has something you beat.
i just fold and 4bet next time preflop
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09-29-2009 , 04:51 PM
Given this players aggression level, I would get this in pre-flop (I am assuming they 3-Bet frequentlyis high as well). I don't hate calling though. If I do call, I am never folding. I would call down on this board, although I would be cryin the whole way.
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09-29-2009 , 05:05 PM
get it in Pre...as played fold the flop.
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09-29-2009 , 06:18 PM
Preflop I put him at high pocket pair (maybe 77 or 88+) and AJs+ AQo+. We have good equity against this range, and I'm inclined to say a 35/15 aggrodonk has a pretty wide shoving range pre-flop, so getting it all in here is not a bad idea.

However, a call's also not a bad idea if you think he'll fold the lower part of his range (77-TT, AJ) to a 4-bet and shove with the rest.

The flop hits his potential range pretty hard, but this could also be a c-bet. This guy is an aggro player, and I'm guessing he c-bets his whole preflop range. Assuming his range is still 88+, AJs+, AQo+, we're at 42% equity and we need 44% to call.

This guy HAS put half his stack in, and you can bet that the rest is going in there too. I fold here because this is a marginal call at best with middle pair, and we should be looking for fat value at 10nl.

/edit: looked at stacks... he's not folding pre once he's 3-bet 1/3 of his stack. Get it in pre and fold flop.
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09-29-2009 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Panik
/edit: looked at stacks... he's not folding pre once he's 3-bet 1/3 of his stack. Get it in pre and fold flop.
$1.20 is a third of $6.65?
Doesn't shoving preflop narrow his continuation range a bit much?
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