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10-09-2010 , 02:32 PM

splash43

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I felt like this is a rough spot with my QQ. I've played only 50 or so hands with the villain so there are no real reads. He's been playing pretty snug. Is AA/KK or a set a legitimate worry? I don't think he would raise with a flush draw.

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SB ($18.67)
BB ($4)
UTG ($18.80)
MP ($10.15)
CO ($12.20)
Hero (Button) ($12.39)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q

, Q

1 fold, MP bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.20, 2 folds, MP calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.55) 4

, 8

, 2

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2, MP raises to $4.60, Hero ????

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10-09-2010 , 02:35 PM

blackgerbil1

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i doubt they are ever bluffing here.

tough spot, id prob call tho, because if were folding QQ here, what the hell is our getting in range, quite exploitable when you move up. Would be better if we had more info on villan, like do the flat 3bets with hands like KQs/KJs/AKs. are they calling and stacking off here with 99+

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10-09-2010 , 02:40 PM

thecraminator

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Originally Posted by blackgerbil1

so basically we are putting half our stack in here and folding on any turn not a Q?

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10-09-2010 , 02:42 PM

blackgerbil1

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Originally Posted by thecraminator

so basically we are putting half our stack in here and folding on any turn not a Q?

no we calling it off.

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10-09-2010 , 02:43 PM

thecraminator

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so why not just shove on flop?

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10-09-2010 , 02:43 PM

nalgame

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why wouldn't he raise with a flush draw
it's not like c/c with AcJc is gonna make the hand super easy to play
he c/c and then what hopes u check it down with KQ?

u might see 99 or TT here too cuz they always put u on Ak anyways

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10-09-2010 , 02:43 PM

SunyD

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I think this is a shove or fold. If we call, villain has like $4 behind and we have like $5, and pot will be 11.75. We can expect villain to shove turn - are we ever folding?

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10-09-2010 , 02:44 PM

blackgerbil1

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Originally Posted by thecraminator

so why not just shove on flop?

keep in there bluffs to spazz turns. raising flop and getting it in is also fine

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10-09-2010 , 02:45 PM

thecraminator

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Originally Posted by blackgerbil1

keep in there bluffs to spazz turns. raising flop and getting it in is also fine

makes sense..but we are getting it in on any turn?

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10-09-2010 , 02:49 PM

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blackgerbil1

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yes.

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10-09-2010 , 02:52 PM

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Blaaz

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Just get it in.

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10-09-2010 , 04:50 PM

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keane_mark2

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its a dry board and u have queens

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10-09-2010 , 08:59 PM

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splash43

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Originally Posted by thecraminator

so why not just shove on flop?

I felt like this was either a shove or fold. For some reason my gut told me fold but my head was telling me that folding QQ on this board was just too weak. Villain had AA. Even though my gut was right this time, I don't want to be results oriented. I don't think my 4bet shove was the wrong move.

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