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[10nl]JJ vs really weird line [10nl]JJ vs really weird line

03-09-2011 , 05:24 PM
2nd hand at the table, never seen villain before, but this is how he plays his aces



    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8153502

    BB: $10 (100 bb)
    MP: $4.59 (45.9 bb)
    CO: $10.23 (102.3 bb)
    BTN: $7.82 (78.2 bb)
    SB: $10 (100 bb)

    Preflop:
    MP folds, CO calls $0.10, BTN raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.35, BB raises to $1.70, CO folds, BTN raises to $3, SB folds, BB calls $1.30

    Flop: ($6.50) 2 Q 6 (2 players)
    BB bets $7 and is all-in, BTN calls $4.82 and is all-in

    Turn: ($18.32) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: ($18.32) 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $18.32 pot ($0.79 rake)
    Final Board: 2 Q 6 2 3
    BB showed T T and won $2.18 (-$7.82 net)
    BTN showed A A and won $15.35 ($7.53 net)



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    PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    BTN: $10.00
    Hero (SB): $10.00
    BB: $4.39
    UTG: $10.46
    MP: $15.35
    CO: $10.00

    Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

    Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has J J

    fold, MP calls $0.10, CO raises to $0.30, fold, Hero calls $0.25, fold, MP calls $0.20

    Flop: ($1.00, 3 players) 6 3 4
    Hero checks, MP bets $0.40, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, MP calls $1.10

    Turn: ($4.00, 2 players) Q
    Hero checks, MP bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

    River: ($5.80, 2 players) 3
    Hero checks, MP bets $2.50, fold

    When he donks the flop I'm kinda lost, felt like this should be a FD a large part of the time so I decided to charge the draw. The turn is not great for me, and I'm not sure how to proceed from there on.
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    03-09-2011 , 05:29 PM
    id prolly threebet pre
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    03-09-2011 , 05:36 PM
    Actually misread the HH for the aces hand, thought he was the on that flatted the 4bet
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    03-09-2011 , 06:39 PM
    3bet pre to 1.00-1.10 fold to 4bet? based on last hand.
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    03-09-2011 , 06:48 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MoneyOnMyMind
    3bet pre to 1.00-1.10 fold to 4bet? based on last hand.
    3 bet/Get it in
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    03-10-2011 , 04:39 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mojo6911
    3 bet/Get it in
    Please dont post this, this logic is absolute garbage for micro stakes as 99% of players are never ever ever ever ever cold 4 betting with worse than QQ-AA and AK.
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    03-10-2011 , 10:01 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by spectrefax
    Please dont post this, this logic is absolute garbage for micro stakes as 99% of players are never ever ever ever ever cold 4 betting with worse than QQ-AA and AK.
    Sure they do and it wouldn't be a cold 4 bet, either boss. If you 3 bet, you can take the pot down now, which is fine. You can isolate the fish who limped from MP, or you can get it in against this guy profitably, considering the dead money and the fact that this guy just doubled up with aces in the previous hand. Playing JJ OOP against two people isn't fun. 3 bet/folding is pretty bad, too.
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    03-10-2011 , 10:15 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Snaaak
    Actually misread the HH for the aces hand, thought he was the on that flatted the 4bet
    LOL so basically it's not a really weird line then. Why didn't you 3b pre?
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    03-10-2011 , 10:16 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tibrida
    LOL so basically it's not a really weird line then. Why didn't you 3b pre?
    LOL, no. It just means the previous hand was pretty standard, so there was really no point in including it.
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    03-10-2011 , 10:19 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Snaaak
    LOL, no. It just means the previous hand was pretty standard, so there was really no point in including it.
    Including the last HH was the basis of the weird line (or that's how I understood it and got real confused since it was standard ). Anyways, given the way the hand was played, I think the river fold is fine.
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