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10NL - JJ on T high flop 10NL - JJ on T high flop

09-28-2008 , 11:44 PM
Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
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Hero (BTN): $13.10
SB: $1.15
BB: $13.40
CO: $16.80

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with J J
CO raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.90, 2 folds, CO calls $0.70

Flop: ($1.95) 7 T 9 (2 players)
CO bets $2.40

No reads yet on villain. Hadn't seen him overbet like this before, but I had not been at the table for too long. What's our plan for the rest of this hand?
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09-29-2008 , 12:53 AM
Tough call. He can be protecting a hand like AT here or maybe trying to lure you in with a monster by making his bet look bluffy. He could also be doing this with pure air as your pf 3bet narrows your range down to like JJ+ or AK in his eyes, and he doesn't think you can call such a massive over bet with a single pair/overcards on such a wet board. I kind of like a call here actually and then see how he plays the turn, could be a leak though so I am interested to see how others will advise.
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09-29-2008 , 02:11 AM
This is tough without any stats or reads... unlike Mandos though, I would not like to call this flop. I'm either folding and more oftenly shoving this flop depending on how you view the overbet.
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09-29-2008 , 02:24 AM
I am raising here, calling leaves us exposed to overs on the turn, there are not a whole lot of turn cards that we are happy with actually. I like a raise here to about 6 and then we can shove the turn if we are happy with it.
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09-29-2008 , 02:29 AM
I probably just shove flop (same basic effect as raising to 8-9) considering there's only like 12 (2,3,4,5 non spade) turns that you're really comfortable shoving the turn over him on given stack sizes.
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09-29-2008 , 02:40 AM
I like to raise to like 8-9 too drawy a board for me don't want him gettin to see a turn at his price and likely it's going to be a scare card for us
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09-29-2008 , 02:43 AM
88 in his range? 10x in his range you may have no reads but a min bet call isnt a standard line taken by most 'good' regs at this level. i would shove.

Stop and go here be a good line? just call and push regardless, if a 3rd spade comes out maybe he folds 2 pr or QQ? yes? no? maybe?
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