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saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($11) (33/15/4/93h)
Button ($9.05)
SB ($3.60)
BB ($3)
UTG ($36.15)
Hero ($9.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J, J.
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.4, CO raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.60.

Flop: ($2.15) 3, 3, T (2 players)
Hero bets $2, CO raises to $5, Hero folds

Final Pot: $6.15

Villain didn't play any big pot that went to SD iirc - don't have a good idea how he plays postflop. I have never seen him 3betting such a small amount so far.

I think pf is standard, i don't want to play for stacks with JJ without 3betting history.

The flop is quite good, but i don't see a hand i beat when he raises me. I doubt he will a) 3bet small with a low PP and b) commits on this flop.

Q's:

- b/f >>> b/3bai?
- bet sizing? (there is a reason why i bet so much, will explain later)

I instapush over his raise. I also like a CR here, too

i think your line is fine. i dont see what worse is going to call a shove and the only hand we beat is AK and he wouldn't raise it on this board

why r u donking flop?

just c/r flop imho

I am donking to protect my hand vs AK/AQs hands. If villain is smart, he will call with AA/KK and i will have a difficult decision on the turn (i will most likely stack off if no overcard comes).

You mean c/rai or c/r-fold?

c/r folding is only an option if ur bluffing, which ur clearly not, so c/r call, or c/rai if stacksizes allow it.

theres no point protecting against ak/aq since you can get a cbet from them and they just fold if u bet, so u loose money if u dont let them cbet.

Ok i assume villains range is very narrow here {AA-TT, AK, AQ}, there is not much 3betting light at 10NL and i didn't see villain 3bet once.

Let's say i check, villain bets $1.5 and i c/r small to $4. By doing this i

a) get another bet vs AK, AQ
b) i am able to escape if villain shoves

I mean, if i c/rai i allow him to play perfectly, he calls with AA,KK,JJ(unlikely),TT and folds AK/AQ.

A vote for c/r small?

if u c/r small its not to fold tough, but rather to entice him to make a move.

if u call the 3bet preflop its to stack off on safe flops, this flop is safe as it gets.

Few things. Donking to "protect" your hand from AK or AQ is pretty silly. They have 6 outs to improve on the turn which will only happen 12% of the time. Chances are if he does have one of those hands, he'll either fold or raise as a semibluff.

I think we should treat this villain as an unknown. Sure, his stats say that he's pretty spewy, but OP states himself that he has no idea how villain plays in big pots, or in general during showdown. As such, I'd take a different line.

I figure if we're going to commit on this hand, why the rush? Leading may be good to provoke a bluff from someone we know is pretty spewy. Here I don't think it's right. Check/raising is another alterative, but I don't think we're going to get enough worse hands to call us to make that profitable.

I'd check/call flop and re-evaluate the turn. Any non-A/K/Q turn I'd be tempted to lead, but I wouldn't mind calling down either. I see a lot of benefits for playing this hand passively, and not many for playing them aggressively.

1. AK or AQ is very unlikely to flat any bets but will either raise or fold.
2. We have no information about what kind of hands Villain 3bets and this would be a good time to find out.
3. Checking the flop and checking the turn allows AK and AQ to fire second barrels unimproved.

The only downsides is that it allows AK and AQ to take a free card on the turn if they decide to give up.

Thoughts?

I think i have serious MUBS - the question is indeed not if i should commit but how to get the money in, even if villain's min3b is scary. I figured he would lay down AK/AQ and shove overpairs. So i turned my JJ in a bluff.

Basically, i should take the line that gets the money in as quick as possible, am i right?

Donking sucks. I like both c/c and c/rAI, depending on his 3bet range.