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10NL: Fold these flushes? 10NL: Fold these flushes?

12-01-2012 , 01:55 PM
BB is a 21/19/0.0 over 34 hands
MP is a 94/19/0.0 over 23 hands


    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14804631

    BB: $10.64 (106.4 bb)
    MP: $13.37 (133.7 bb)
    CO: $10 (100 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $10.05 (100.5 bb)
    SB: $11.90 (119 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 3 2
    MP calls $0.10, CO folds, Hero calls $0.10, SB folds, BB checks

    Flop: ($0.35) 7 6 9 (3 players)
    BB bets $0.30, MP raises to $0.60, Hero calls $0.60, BB raises to $1.70, MP raises to $13.27 and is all-in, Hero folds, BB calls $8.84 and is all-in

    Turn: ($22.03) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: ($22.03) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)




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    Villain is a 27/21/6.4 over 59 hands

      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14804641

      CO: $10 (100 bb)
      BTN: $10.55 (105.5 bb)
      Hero (SB): $17.72 (177.2 bb)
      BB: $10 (100 bb)
      UTG: $8.15 (81.5 bb)
      MP: $10.19 (101.9 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 6 7
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20

      Flop: ($0.60) 5 4 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40

      Turn: ($1.40) J (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.90, BB calls $0.90

      River: ($3.20) 3 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.50, BB raises to $8.40 and is all-in, Hero folds




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      10NL: Fold these flushes? Quote
      12-01-2012 , 02:00 PM
      Hand #1 I probably fold to a shove

      Hand #2 I call, since we kinda disguised our flush draw on the flop, and there's 4 cards to a wheel on the board, and aces probably make a big part of villains range.
      10NL: Fold these flushes? Quote
      12-01-2012 , 02:08 PM
      I'd fold the first (not to the bet/raise, but to BB's 3-bet) and call the 2nd.
      10NL: Fold these flushes? Quote
      12-01-2012 , 02:11 PM
      Quote:
      I'd fold the first (not to the bet/raise, but to BB's 3-bet) and call the 2nd.
      Yessss, I think like Verneer xD

      Btw, I ordered your book for Christmas, gonna be a great read.
      10NL: Fold these flushes? Quote
      12-01-2012 , 02:18 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by verneer
      I'd fold the first (not to the bet/raise, but to BB's 3-bet) and call the 2nd.
      Whats his range in the 2nd OTR? thanks.
      10NL: Fold these flushes? Quote
      12-01-2012 , 02:47 PM
      Hand 1:
      Limping pre-flop is so bad. So, terribly bad. Every time you want to limp in pre-flop, think about how many hands are priced in to out-draw you. Think about how you can't rep a strong hand post-flop and expect it to make any sense. Think about how much dead money is out there to be collected without having to place any more bets. Think of how weak your hand is against 3 or 4 Villains rather than against 1 or (fold you bastards!) 0.

      Bad players limp pre-flop because they are bad players. They have a mediocre hand and they want to "get lucky" OTF. They just told you. Why would they say that at a poker table? Because they're bad players.
      Piss them off by folding more than they expect you to from EP and MP and raising more than they expect you to from HJ/CO/BTN. BE POSITIONALLY AWARE. Make them play badly by not playing like they do. They wont like it, and they don't know how to react to it, and they will make more mistakes.

      Calling from the SB or BB getting 9:1 or more direct pot odds is enough to nut-mine for 2 pair or better OTF with just about ATC.

      Finally: 32s? really? That's a trash hand and so are 43s and 42s. You are almost never going to be able to make a profit with those pockets. Even against fish. Even playing IP against them. They just flop so badly. Bottom pr, bottom kicker or a crappy low flush draw is about the best you can expect 95% of the time.

      If you have a polarized 3-betting range against a villain that folds to 3-bets all to often, then add low suited Aces and mid S1G's to your range.

      Seriously, consider what you DON'T have in your range that is so much stronger than 32s.

      Hand 2: Call river shove. Cry if it's a cooler and he outflushed you. It happens, and I'm sure you get your share of calls when you're on the other side of it.
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