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10NL facing river min raise with baby full house 10NL facing river min raise with baby full house

07-20-2009 , 11:33 AM
villain is a 46/7/3.2 fishy over 46 hands. i had been playing a fairly standard game 24/12/3.3 over 100ish hands, but had been opening a lot of pots from late position when it was limped or folded to me.


Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $12.10
BTN: $10.40
SB: $5.90
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $9.35
MP: $21.35

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 5 5
UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, CO calls $0.10, 1 fold, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.40) K 8 5 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.40, UTG folds, CO calls $0.40, SB folds

Turn: ($1.20) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, CO calls $0.80

River: ($2.80) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, CO raises to $5,

Hero????


firstly, what do you think of my line so far, and what do you do here?
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07-20-2009 , 11:35 AM
Your line is good. Shove for value now
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07-20-2009 , 11:44 AM
shove. Trips or flush is every bit as likely as a bigger full. Strikes me as very unlikely that villain has a 6 in his hand unless he has specifically 76, in which case you are still ahead.
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07-20-2009 , 02:31 PM
why are you leading that set OOP against a player that will clearly fire that board. c/r that flop.

obv shove river you made boat, he has flush here everytime.
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07-20-2009 , 02:34 PM
Get that in asap
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07-20-2009 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JHair
why are you leading that set OOP against a player that will clearly fire that board. c/r that flop.
It's a multiway pot and at least one player figures to have a fd and at least one we hop has a K. Leading flop is pretty standard with a set. You feel like a tard when you check and everyone checks behind and then the heart lands on the turn.
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07-20-2009 , 02:54 PM
Sorry, missed the multiway part. I read the top part and didn't notive since you only had one set of stats. Obv ship river though
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07-20-2009 , 03:16 PM
If you shoved then this is fine.
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07-20-2009 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JHair
Sorry, missed the multiway part. I read the top part and didn't notive since you only had one set of stats. Obv ship river though
yeah i lead flop because i thought there were a lot of hands that would call a bet but not many that would lead on that board

and into 4 players, i expected at least one of them to come along.

to be honest, i didn't even consider bigger full houses, as i thought nearly all of them are raising me on the turn at least. i instashoved the river thinking that he pretty much always has a flush there, but it turns out that fishy mcfish had K6.

so yeah definite cooler but i thought my line was ok.


do we ever flat that river instead of shoving? in this case, my shove was for 3 bucks more, so the answer is no, but what if i was 200bb deep? is it always ship/rr for value here?

my opinion is that his range nearly entirely composed of flushes here. i dont see a bigger set flatting the turn to watch another heart peel the river. K6 or a ******ed 86 are about the only hands that beat me there.
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07-20-2009 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bennymacca
to be honest, i didn't even consider bigger full houses, as i thought nearly all of them are raising me on the turn at least. i instashoved the river thinking that he pretty much always has a flush there, but it turns out that fishy mcfish had K6.
The heart kept him from raising his two pair. There was pretty much a perfect storm of cooler for you in this hand.
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07-21-2009 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bennymacca
do we ever flat that river instead of shoving? in this case, my shove was for 3 bucks more, so the answer is no, but what if i was 200bb deep? is it always ship/rr for value here?

my opinion is that his range nearly entirely composed of flushes here. i dont see a bigger set flatting the turn to watch another heart peel the river. K6 or a ******ed 86 are about the only hands that beat me there.
Not against this villain we shove it everytime.
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