Winning Poker Network - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $13.95
BTN: $8.49
SB: $10.79
Hero (BB): $13.14
UTG: $12.28

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 9 T

fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.40, 2 players) 4 8 J
SB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.80, 2 players) A
SB bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

River: ($1.60, 2 players) 7
SB bets $0.95

Villain is a 17/9 over about 285 hands. This is the first time he's ever double barrelled, so I decided to call the turn. It's pretty thin I think, because I don't think he's ever bluffing here. But, I think I have enough implied odds when I hit, especially considering how disguised it is.

Once he bets the river, my question is, what should my raise size be here? Should I shove, or would that look too strong?

I would make it like 3.9$, dont know what he would call a shove with around 4 has better EV imo cause I expect him to call a lot.

With the low opening bet by SB, I think I would like to see a flop raise, just to try and get a bigger river if you hit. But calling on hidden draws is fine too.

I think he is pretty polarized here, to really strong hands or else mediocre ones such as Jx, so I think overbetting pretty large will make more money in the long run. Maybe 4 or 5 bucks and hope he jams back. If you shove, he might find a fold w/ AJ, which is large part of his turn continuing range.

I thought about raising the flop, but I prefer calling with this specific hand because of how disguised it is. With a nut flush draw, I think raising is perhaps better, preferably with two overs.

Another reason I decided not to raise is because villain already had a pretty low c-bet percentage (my bad for not adding that), so I don't think my raise will work very often.

calling the flop with such a disguised straight can (almost) never be bad

Hands i think he has:
AK/AQ type hands (10% of the time)
AJ/other Ax two pair hands (25% of the time)
Sets (rest of the time)
(he probably has some random junk here occasionally but that probably isnt calling any raise)

He isnt calling anything w his AK type hands except maybe some wierd minraise crap.
I think a big raise here is good bc the flush draw missed and it looks kind of bluffy. I think he will likely call w two pair often bc you never (i hope) play a set like this and sets can fold on this boards no matter how the action goes, certainly not at these stakes.

I think a shove here is optimal for three reasons:
-He has a really strong/set weighted range
-It looks really bluffy
-he isnt going to put you on a straight

As for the way you played the hand up to this point i think you did everything right.
May i ask what the result was (although im guessing he folded?)

Didnt realise he doesnt cbet often, even more reason to shove river imo bc he doesnt have AK/AQ v often.

here's a crazy disguised straight draw hand...they can be fun to play around with, that's for sure

^ you have confused me, so u folded or what?

OP I think you played it fine (up until the river action). Raising flop / flatting are probably similar in EV although I personally would raise against most villains because it takes down the pot then and there so often (although you said villain had a low cbet% so leads us to believe he may have a value hand vs a bluff)

Turn may be a fold considering diamonds are no good and a Q no longer gives you the nuts.

River I would make it around $3.5-$4. I think jamming is too big of a bet considering that you wouldn't jam a busted flush draw or a set (I think) or 2pair. So your range becomes much more polarized to the actual nuts and thus villain won't be bluffcatching us with Ax or a set etc.

Thanks for the feedback.

I ended up making it around $4.35 and he tanked and called. No idea what he had because of Winning Poker's inability to show hole cards when you've won. I definitely think raising big is good here, but I'm not sure if raising to $4.00-$4.55 or shoving is optimal. I'm still torn on that one.

His small bet sizing doesn't look too strong so I don't think shoving is gonna get that many calls. Something in the $5-6 range sounds good to me.

Sucks that Winning doesn't show the losing hand at showdown doesn't it?

Hand seems fine. Just make a pretty big river raise.

Flop call/raise are both fine. A lot of it depends on style and dynamic. Personally I'd probably raise it more often then not. I like putting pressure on people to create some history.

You honestly don't think that a micro stakes V is calling a shove if he has a set?

I would bet 4,5$. OP bet size is 1/2 pot, i dont think he have a strong hand, to all in he will fold very often, so just bet like 4,5$ or even smaller

That's how I feel, would raise not shove. If he was like 35/15 or you have reads he can't let go, shove.

I would shove river. He has 3barreled, if he is calling a raise to 5-6 i think he will call a shove here plus flush draw missed and it seems fos. Personally i would raise more otf than not exactly because of the presence of a fldr(7d,Qd might put us in trouble and they destroy your implied odds as well) , i want to take it otf.

Is this for real??? You can't even see their cards in PT/HEM afterwards?
So if you stack off preflop you only get to see their hand if you lose?

^^^ I'm afraid so. Makes it really difficult to get good reads on river calling frequencies and how thin I can bet.

Must be frustrating. Any reason why they're doing this?