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01-13-2013 , 11:43 PM
Not much history with villain as I only have 81 hands with him. He seems overly aggresive; I think i got lucky because even though he seems aggresive i still dont have enough hands on him.

villain stats
33/29/2.4 75cbet 100Fcb and 15.43bet


    Cake Poker, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15399781

    CO: $22.35 (223.5 bb)
    BTN: $10.70 (107 bb)
    SB: $8.70 (87 bb)
    BB: $9.90 (99 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $13.89 (138.9 bb)
    MP: $18.36 (183.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q A
    Hero raises to $0.27, MP raises to $0.96, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.69

    Flop: ($2.07) 8 9 Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

    Turn: ($4.47) 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $2.50, Hero raises to $6, MP folds




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    01-14-2013 , 12:17 AM
    fold pre. fullstop!
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    01-14-2013 , 12:18 AM
    if you don't, have a plan!
    if you don't 4bet him, have a plan!
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    01-14-2013 , 12:19 AM
    since you provide no 3b% this is worthless anyway
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    01-14-2013 , 12:24 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by elektrik23
    Not much history with villain as I only have 81 hands with him. He seems overly aggresive; I think i got lucky because even though he seems aggresive i still dont have enough hands on him.

    villain stats
    33/29/2.4 75cbet 100Fcb and 15.43bet

    ?
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    01-14-2013 , 12:28 AM
    so its 15.4% 3bet isnt it? and i should have understood that right?
    yeah, its probably very difficult and stressfull to write "%" or even a white space.

    im sorry. i didnt. please let me be old and please grow up. good luck and all!
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    01-14-2013 , 12:42 AM
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    Originally Posted by Jever
    so its 15.4% 3bet isnt it? and i should have understood that right?
    yeah, its probably very difficult and stressfull to write "%" or even a white space.

    im sorry. i didnt. please let me be old and please grow up. good luck and all!
    righttt, so you were able to understand all stats except the one that says 15.43 bet which is that... a 15.43 bet. I don't know if you are trolling but it just seems unnecessary, I'm not going to comment on the quality of your 4 posts and how it has helped me become a better player because at least you tried to help me in some kind of way. Hopefully someone else can explain in more detail. Good night.
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    01-14-2013 , 12:49 AM
    calling pre is fine since his bet is 15%.

    I'd raise flop instead of turn...tons of draws out we want to get value out of. By just calling flop you gave him a free shot to draw to a straight or flush.

    He looks aggressive but I think just calling/slowplaying flop is too risky.
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    01-14-2013 , 01:02 AM
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    Originally Posted by elektrik23
    righttt, so you were able to understand all stats except the one that says 15.43 bet which is that... a 15.43 bet. I don't know if you are trolling but it just seems unnecessary, I'm not going to comment on the quality of your 4 posts and how it has helped me become a better player because at least you tried to help me in some kind of way. Hopefully someone else can explain in more detail. Good night.
    your egocentric criticism-autism prolly helps you go to nosebleeds in no time. good luck in your future endeavours! but please: dont shoot harmless school-children! its guys like me you should shoot.

    Last edited by Jever; 01-14-2013 at 01:08 AM.
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    01-14-2013 , 02:22 AM
    heck, i dont even have a gun!
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    01-14-2013 , 03:02 AM
    pre okay, id just raised flop they can call with a ton of draws and worse Qx hands
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    01-14-2013 , 11:12 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jever
    your egocentric criticism-autism prolly helps you go to nosebleeds in no time. good luck in your future endeavours! but please: dont shoot harmless school-children! its guys like me you should shoot.
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    Originally Posted by Jever
    heck, i dont even have a gun!
    Trolling confirmed, go eat a sausage.
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    01-14-2013 , 11:16 AM
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    calling pre is fine since his bet is 15%

    I'd raise flop instead of turn...tons of draws out we want to get value out of. By just calling flop you gave him a free shot to draw to a straight or flush.

    He looks aggressive but I think just calling/slowplaying flop is too risky..
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    Originally Posted by PeoplesElbow
    pre okay, id just raised flop they can call with a ton of draws and worse Qx hands
    How much can we make it on the flop? Also if he calls do we get it in OTT if it misses?
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    01-14-2013 , 11:45 AM
    This guy has a high 3-bet%, but you raised UTG and he 3-bet you anyway with 3 behind to act. That is a powerful move, so that number may be misleading in this specific situation. Unless there is history here, I don't think folding a hand that plays like crap OOP in bloated pots is a terrible idea, especially given the stack sizes. I think I could find a fold pre, but calling is okay too.

    As played, why did you not lead this flop? Isn't this pretty much what you were hoping to hit? Leading charges draws, and keeps the pot manageable. Only a big combo draw or QQ+ could really raise you if you lead this. He may bluff-raise sometimes, but I think that is less likely because your UTG raise-flat pre followed by a bet does indicate substantial strength. People are also less motivated to attempt bluffs on wet coordinated flops because they generally don't work.

    Checkraising the flop or the turn bloats the pot and makes it easy for an overpair or set to trap you.

    Check/calling multiple streets is dangerous because it gives villain the opportunity to lead with a wide range of made hands and semi-bluffs. This will make it very difficult to tell where we stand on future streets. It also allows him to control the size of the pot in a situation where we'd prefer a small pot. We could easily be forced to fold on later streets after investing much more money in the hand.
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    01-14-2013 , 12:12 PM
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    Originally Posted by ChrisGil
    This guy has a high 3-bet%, but you raised UTG and he 3-bet you anyway with 3 behind to act. That is a powerful move, so that number may be misleading in this specific situation. Unless there is history here, I don't think folding a hand that plays like crap OOP in bloated pots is a terrible idea, especially given the stack sizes. I think I could find a fold pre, but calling is okay too.

    As played, why did you not lead this flop? Isn't this pretty much what you were hoping to hit? Leading charges draws, and keeps the pot manageable. Only a big combo draw or QQ+ could really raise you if you lead this. He may bluff-raise sometimes, but I think that is less likely because your UTG raise-flat pre followed by a bet does indicate substantial strength. People are also less motivated to attempt bluffs on wet coordinated flops because they generally don't work.

    Checkraising the flop or the turn bloats the pot and makes it easy for an overpair or set to trap you.

    Check/calling multiple streets is dangerous because it gives villain the opportunity to lead with a wide range of made hands and semi-bluffs. This will make it very difficult to tell where we stand on future streets. It also allows him to control the size of the pot in a situation where we'd prefer a small pot. We could easily be forced to fold on later streets after investing much more money in the hand.

    +25

    I definitely agree with his preflop range, even though he 3bets a lot there are still many left to act so that makes his range much more tight. This is something that i need to look more into.
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    01-14-2013 , 12:57 PM
    Fold pre. There aren't many flops you will love.
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    01-14-2013 , 01:51 PM
    15% 3bet over 81 hands means jack ****. That might only be like two 3-bets because he ran hot.
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    01-14-2013 , 02:03 PM
    3bet stat is irrelevant, plus he's 3 betting an UTG open. Fold preflop.
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    01-14-2013 , 02:58 PM
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    Originally Posted by TiltM0nkey
    15% 3bet over 81 hands means jack ****. That might only be like two 3-bets because he ran hot.
    that what I said in the first post, I got lucky and flopped a queen. Definitely need to pay attention to the number of hands I have on villain.
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