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02-12-2012 , 02:27 AM

andymc1

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villain is 64/15 F23b: 0% F2CB: 27% (probably more like 0% IP)

Bet vs missed CB F: 100% (6/6) T: 100% (2/2)
Bet OOP vs missed CB: 75% 12 samples

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11857372

UTG: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
MP: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $10.04 (100.4 bb)
SB: $10.50 (105 bb)
Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.50, CO folds, BTN calls $1.20

Flop: ($3.35) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1, Hero folds

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How do you deal with these kinds of players with your big unpaired hands when OOP? It feels like you're just donating the cash you put in pre 2/3 of the time when you miss. Just c/f and hope you cooler any lesser A or K next time?

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02-12-2012 , 05:54 AM

LolDonkamentz

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Pretty much agree with you, not going to get fancy OOP when I can wait for a better spot and take maney (the f do)

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02-12-2012 , 06:14 AM

gb600

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Im still betting this flop. why 3bet AKo first place if you gonna c/f to any amount when you miss? Especially when you are getting amazing odds to call

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02-12-2012 , 06:24 AM

Rob Filter

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This hand has enough equity to work as a cbet bluff, so unless you expect him to just c/f all the hands worse than yours and not bluff with them (not happening) or you expect him to bluff enough for it to be good to c/c (he would need to be really bad at value betting) we should just turn our hand into a bluff.

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02-12-2012 , 07:19 AM

LolDonkamentz

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Sorry, I didn't really read the hand properly, I'm cbetting if I 3b pre, but giving up if it doesnt work or if I don't hit and A or K on the hand

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02-12-2012 , 07:46 AM

chad0x001

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You should cbet. its unlikely he hit the board and you know for a fact i you dont cbet he is going to bet. oh, Id barrel as well. Im miles ahead of his range

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02-12-2012 , 08:38 AM

Myopic Llama

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3 betting pre and c/f a J94 rainbow board against an apparent aggro fish who bet less than 1/3 of the pot sucks. Definitely cbet here.

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02-12-2012 , 09:08 AM

HU4hoes

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cbet $1.50 and then just give up on turns if you dont hit

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02-12-2012 , 02:12 PM

andymc1

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Originally Posted by chad0x00

You should cbet. its unlikely he hit the board and you know for a fact i you dont cbet he is going to bet. oh, Id barrel as well. Im miles ahead of his range

He doesn't need to have hit the board to continue vs a cbet. So, we get ourselves in really ****ty spots where we cbet and c/f the turn too much or we are multi barreling vs a station fish in a 3bet pot.

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Originally Posted by Myopic Llama

3 betting pre and c/f a J94 rainbow board against an apparent aggro fish who bet less than 1/3 of the pot sucks. Definitely cbet here.

Create more dead money for him to gobble up? You can't c/c in these spots, what if he bets $ $1-1.50 ott, c/c again? and another $1-$2 OTR, c/c again? It's juz crazy.

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02-12-2012 , 02:53 PM

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baohoa

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cf vs. this guy is burning money. he plays a so wide range that misses this flop a ton that i think cbetting is best. followed by xr, cc and would never think about cf tbh.

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02-12-2012 , 03:09 PM

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andymc1

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Originally Posted by baohoa

cf vs. this guy is burning money. he plays a so wide range that misses this flop a ton that i think cbetting is best. followed by xr, cc and would never think about cf tbh.

He misses the flop a ton, agreed. But he doesn't fold to cbets so it doesn't matter. So, we cbet $1.50 turn is 4

, we?

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