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08-08-2018 , 07:22 PM

O'Con Sweed

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Was I correct to get the rest of my stack in on this river? The flush gets there on the river, but I have the As and I think I'm good here. If I did check this river, is it then correct to fold to a jam?

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 190 BB (VPIP: 39.03, PFR: 30.77, 3Bet Preflop: 8.63, Hands: 366)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 26.79, PFR: 18.57, 3Bet Preflop: 7.78, Hands: 387)
SB: 94.4 BB (VPIP: 26.92, PFR: 20.51, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 80)
Hero (BB): 105 BB
UTG: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 25.35, PFR: 15.49, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 72)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A

fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, BTN calls 9 BB

Flop: (24.5 BB, 2 players) 9

Hero bets 13 BB, BTN calls 13 BB

Turn: (50.5 BB, 2 players) 7

Hero bets 33 BB, BTN calls 33 BB

River: (116.5 BB, 2 players) 5

Hero bets 47 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 42 BB and is all-in

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08-08-2018 , 07:31 PM

Renekton

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Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 853

We block a lot of flushes so we should call if we check. I don't think villain should have AsX bluffs.

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08-08-2018 , 09:53 PM

simplelessons

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V has more 9x in his range than we do. I think the turn bet might be too big or maybe even should be a check.

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08-08-2018 , 11:11 PM

compton2014

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Yeah the river is definitely tough, we are beating 1010 maybe JJ, losing to 10 9, 77, 44, flushes. The combos that we lose to definitely outweigh the combos we beat. If your stats are super nitty, V may elect to just call KK/QQ to keep you on the hand.

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08-08-2018 , 11:52 PM

BigBananas

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Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 1,543

Turn is clear vb imo.

Against 27/18 i shove river. I think much more likely chance of getting called by 88 or even by some wacky hands like a4s.

Against someone more solid it becomes a lot closer...if theres some history between you and v like 3 barrel bluffa or u have 3b/4b V a lot then i dont mind shove w AA. If theres no history then i probably dont shove.

Btw, in V spot am i the only one strongky considering folding to river jam with JJ/TT for 45bb?

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08-09-2018 , 02:09 AM

pipimeowmeow

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Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 104

Bet more on flop, u want to get it all in asap vs QQ/KK and also to make flush draw pay
3/4 bet flop 3/4 turn bet
River flush comes so be it, shove it in

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08-09-2018 , 04:08 AM

Rikk

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It would be nice if we could be all in OTT.

V has more 9x but not enough for me to be checking anywhere, but I'm open to it.

Personally, I don't think there is even a decision OTR AP. We have to shove.

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08-09-2018 , 05:33 PM

O'Con Sweed

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V turned over 77 and I continue to find ways to lose at 10NL on WPN.

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08-11-2018 , 05:52 AM

Cavallo Italiano

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Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 500

Bet - bet - bet is standard.
Size flop smaller.
Size turn smaller.
Leave yourself with about a 70%PB shove on the river and jam.

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08-11-2018 , 10:33 PM

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pucmo

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Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,188

Probably check fold, depending on an opponent. He could have like 12 combos of flushes, 6 combos of fulls, 6 combos of trips and 18 combos of overpairs.

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08-12-2018 , 03:53 AM

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BigBananas

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You left out quadz

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08-12-2018 , 07:57 PM

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pokrr

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Why bet the river? The only other obvious combos besides 9x in vils range get there on the river. If we don’t bet, he might even check back his 9x from fear that we have the flush, saving us money. And, he might bluff if we check and we can call.

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08-13-2018 , 04:14 AM

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Rikk

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Originally Posted by pokrr

88 TT JJ QQ sometimes even KK. 9x raises before river 90% of the time.

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08-13-2018 , 04:25 AM

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DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by Rikk

88 TT JJ QQ sometimes even KK. 9x raises before river 90% of the time.

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can heavily discount JJ-KK they get it in preflop. check turn as played check river i dont see 3 streets here.

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08-13-2018 , 05:59 AM

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Ojune

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you can argue for a check somewhere but not on the river ap.

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08-13-2018 , 06:36 AM

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BigBananas

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Originally Posted by pokrr

Bluff with wat

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08-13-2018 , 07:15 AM

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Rikk

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Originally Posted by Ojune

you can argue for a check somewhere but not on the river ap.

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08-13-2018 , 07:55 AM

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duckyfAL

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though spot, and very good question.

i think i will cbet 1/2pot otf.
cbet 1/4pot ott / calling a raise.
cbet 1/4pot otr / calling a raise.

Why i like to do this?, because if we are beaten we are loosing less, if he is calling with some bad hands we are winning money, he has so many 9 here. but dificult spot, as you play i will bet flop, bet turn, otr i will shove 65% and 35% c/c river.

But i dont think you play it bad.

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08-13-2018 , 10:16 AM

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Flpmethntsdlr

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Nh. Nothing you can do except maybe go smaller otf to keep floats in.

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