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10NL AA OOP turn decision 10NL AA OOP turn decision

07-15-2008 , 01:42 PM
Villain (who called 3bet) was playing: 23/6/1.8 over 130 hands and with a flop agg freq of 19% and a turn agg freq of 38% (!)
First raiser was playing: 37/23/inf. over just 30 hands.

I raised a lot, because a lot of (re)raises were called so I wanted to maximize their mistakes.

Any thoughts about this line and especially the turn?

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
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UTG: $19.55
UTG+1: $19.70
MP: $18.05
CO: $19.90
BTN: $10.20
SB: $10.55
Hero (BB): $15.00

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with A A
UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 raises to $0.45, 4 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, UTG calls $1.40, 1 fold

Flop: ($3.50) 7 T 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2

Turn: ($7.50) T (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $7.50, Hero ?
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07-15-2008 , 02:05 PM
im shoving, this is kind of what you hope he does. hes willing to bluff way to much on situations like this.

If he had the 10, set, or flush I dont think he would have bet his hand like this we would try to bet something that you may call.
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07-15-2008 , 02:13 PM
Make the re-raise more pre. $2 ish seems better with these stack sizes and given the fact that people will be willing to call more with trash at NL10.

As played all in. It's unlikely villain has a 10 so you only lose to 33 and 77. You beat JJ,QQ,KK and random flush draws. Calling leaves you committed on any river anyway so you may as well just shove.
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07-15-2008 , 02:20 PM
These are (and were) the kind of situations I get stacked. His preflop actions are kinda weird, because he first limps, sees a raise and a reraise behind him and calls for $1,40 more with 1 active player behind him. Flop comes T high, I bet and he just calls. Turn is a third heart and any toppair hand gets his trips. I didn't realy know what to do, so after a long think I decided to c/f to any decent bet.. And so I did. I didn't know what to do and I'm still in doubt whether to lead this turn card and then call a shove or take a more weak/passive and c/f like I did.

I think I got into this hard spot by not PSB flop. I like to see more replies and thoughts about his range and my equity in this pot.
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07-15-2008 , 04:12 PM
That's a very scary turn card. Check-folding to a pot-sized bet on the turn can't be much of a mistake (if it's a mistake at all).
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07-15-2008 , 05:26 PM
It´s some time since I played NL10, so take my words with a grain of salt.
I remember them slowplaying monsters so often that I guess we can get it in here.
limp/call JJ/QQ happens way more often than a big bet with a big hand here, especialy given OPs read.
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07-15-2008 , 05:34 PM
I think you shove here, especially knowing the villain's aggressive numbers. c/c is flawed cause your already committed by the river, if you just call. I also agree that you should have raised the flop more, at least 3, if not just a psb.
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07-15-2008 , 06:31 PM
Interesting that you thought you had re-raised a lot.
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07-16-2008 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Uppercut
Interesting that you thought you had re-raised a lot.

That's interesting indeed 'Cause in retrospect I don't think a raising factor of 3.3 is a big raise! I think a factor 4 to 4,5 had been better, especially being 150bb deep.

Thanks for the other replies. 3 key things about this hand when I had to play it over:

[x] - raise more preflop
[x] - lead out with a PSB on the flop (I'm OOP so I should compensate for that by betting more and protect my hand. It also makes further decisions easier)
[x] - shove turn when aggresive player bets PSB. I could easily have given up after a c-bet on that flop. He tries to take the pot and maximizes his FE by making a PSB and put me to the decision shove or fold.

But 1 more thing about leading out with a PSB on the flop. I can't imagine a lot of draws being close to even money with me. Isn't this a situation (in a pf 3bet pot) where I'm either way ahead or way behind? I don't want to chase villain out of this pot. Anyone who can clear that thought for me, because these are the situations I get in doubt over and over again.
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