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100nl: weird villain, turn decision 100nl: weird villain, turn decision

08-19-2009 , 07:51 AM
ok villain was just strange, made a lot of stupid stuff, seems like he is the kind of person that want to just "own" you, very unpredictable donk.

what to do on turn? i thought i have zero fold equity if i ship, also thought to get the rest of his stack if i hit, so call and get it in when improved? (expect to have 15 outs)

what do i do if i call turn and he checks to me on the river?

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero (BTN) ($120.70)
BB ($143.20)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 2 players) Hero is BTN 7 6
Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $10, Hero calls $7

Flop: Q 2 J ($20, 2 players)
BB bets $15, Hero calls $15

Turn: 7 ($50, 2 players)
BB bets $44, Hero ???
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08-19-2009 , 08:23 AM
fold.
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08-19-2009 , 09:47 AM
If you're not calling here it's better not defend this suited connectors card. I peel the Turn and reevaluate river. Also how much was the 3 Bet% and the 2B% of the villain? This is very important.
If you call and he checks river than you just check behind, you have showdown value with your 7.
JA
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08-19-2009 , 09:54 AM
I don't actually mind a shove if you think he might be semibluffing/bluffing here. Or maybe bet/folding, but it doesn't seem likely since he bet so big.

You have a lot of outs, but I'm not sure about the call. Also notice that all off your outs are not clean, since he may have two pair or better already. I think the call is meh, but I'm not against it, since you should have good equity against his range.

He has about 50$ behind and you have to call 44$ to 94$, so you're getting
44$ to 144$ if you think you'll get his stack on the river. That's 1: 3.27 if my math is correct.

You have 14 outs (9+5), so you need 1:2.29 to hit and you are getting clearly the odds for this. I'd still assume you have on average only 12 outs, which is 1: 2.83, so it's more marginal.

My math might be wrong, so feel free to correct me.
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08-19-2009 , 12:50 PM
the huge turn bet with these stacks usually represents a draw that wants to price himself in to call a shove.

I'm probably shoving this turn and getting called by any FD or AK/KT/9T etc.

I just don't think you see a big hand that often when he bets half his stack on the turn.
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