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(100nl) Villian going hyperaggro the first hand (100nl) Villian going hyperaggro the first hand

09-30-2008 , 05:06 PM
Rebellz, when a player 4 bets on his first hand, I am not going to give him as much credibility as if we had played 30-40 hands and he then threw in a 4 bet. Maybe he's a good regular, maybe he's not, but I still think KQs is good enough to take a flop with. And I would play AA and KK this way also against the first 4 bet. Also maybe 99-TT, and I expect I would just shove JJ-QQ. If we flop a king or a queen, we are simply NOT dominated very often. This is pretty basic math, thinking about hand ranges, and the information that we have so far. It's really pretty unreasonable to not be very happy stacking off with KQ on KT3 first hand of the match IMO
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09-30-2008 , 05:45 PM
KQs is my biggest losing hand - I guess it's one of yours too
fold both, If he's so aggro you'll get plenty of spots. The fourbet is tuff to fold, but I can't see you ahead vs more than his air which is like 10%
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09-30-2008 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rumnchess
Rebellz, when a player 4 bets on his first hand, I am not going to give him as much credibility as if we had played 30-40 hands and he then threw in a 4 bet. Maybe he's a good regular, maybe he's not, but I still think KQs is good enough to take a flop with. And I would play AA and KK this way also against the first 4 bet. Also maybe 99-TT, and I expect I would just shove JJ-QQ. If we flop a king or a queen, we are simply NOT dominated very often. This is pretty basic math, thinking about hand ranges, and the information that we have so far. It's really pretty unreasonable to not be very happy stacking off with KQ on KT3 first hand of the match IMO
If you don't give much credit (and you can be right) i just think you should shove preflop for all the reason i already said.
And if villain is smart more than a cow he probably knows you aren't calling light his 4bet and so PROBABLY he's not going to give you a lot of action when he miss.

Maybe i'm wrong, i just think calling is the worst option there.
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09-30-2008 , 06:47 PM
i'm kinda agree with rum about it being totally different from 50-60 hands in and think calling and shoving are both fine. i'm less inclined to fold because, its a cheap price, we have a pretty hand thats only really losing to ak/qq and flipping with pairs. i very much doubt someone who four bets to 25 is going to do so with AA/KK as it works the other way as well. it's the first hand and heros three betting and people do so lightly first hand and spew off, hense calling with kk/aa.
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